No more Joint Pilot Training?

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  1. cpkousky

    cpkousky Member

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    I read a news article recently about the Air Force and Navy discontinuing their joint pilot training programs? Is this true or just a rumor?
     
  2. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    The Air Force has stopped sending students to NAS Whiting Field and the Navy has stopped sending students to Vance. The last guys on the Navy side to go were at least a year ago, maybe more.
    The instructor exchange apparently is still going on for the foreseeable future because it's 3-year PCS orders, not "go here for six-ish months and then move again" like it is for students. Or so one of the USAF instructors told me.

    The "Air Force" squadron here at Whiting currently has an AF CO, but he's the last one. When he's done in the spring, it'll be Navy from then on out.

    To make my answer to your question needlessly complicated, both services have similar (identical?) curricula for Primary. There's just some culture differences between how the Air Force and the Navy do it.
     
  3. Pima

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    Fencer's DS was at Whiting and they PCSd him mid UPT training to Vance. That was back in July. He commissioned in 12, thus I would think he was the last class to leave Whiting.

    The main reason why that I have been always told was due to the fact that the AF UPT bases were able to wing their students at a faster rate. Not positive, but I believe it was taking about 18 months on avg for Whiting, and @13 months for AF UPT.

    Also as hurricane stated, the Navy has their way of doing things and the AF has theirs.
     
  4. SamAca10

    SamAca10 Ensign - DWO

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    Does this include the AF's CSO's or just their UPT guys?

    The waiting pool is definitely longer now. Some of the guys who graduated from CGA last year won't officially report in until March.
     
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    CSO's go to Pensacola NAS, but I don't think that it is joint.
     
  6. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    Yeah the Coasties kind of get screwed. Since the Navy runs the flow of students through every stage, there's limits on how many Coasties and Marines can be in each class. While the Marines are definitely a low priority and have a long wait time, the Coasties are even lower on the totem pole for spots. On the bright side, since there's not very many of them they're a tight group and they don't get sucked into doing stupid taskings all the time.

    The Air Force stuff at NAS Pensacola isn't joint...they have their own little corner of the base and do their own thing. They're right next to the NFO stuff at Sherman Field, but to my knowledge don't interact.
     

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