Nomination procedure dilemma

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  1. hopefulparent

    hopefulparent Member

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    DS wants USNA over other SAs. MOC and Senators ask him to list SAs in order of preference. What to do? Suppose he lists USNA on MOC app, USMA on senator 1 app, USAFA on senator 2 app. Suppose he doesn't get nomination from MOC, but gets one from either senator. Could he change the SA selection after the nomination is received? Or should he simply list USNA on all 3? What if USMA or USAFA sends him LOA but USNA doesn't, either before or after receiving nomination? Lots of different scenarios.
     
  2. marciemi

    marciemi USMA Alumnus

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    You really need to ask the MOC's office because they vary on what they recommend or allow. Our senators compare lists and will only give one nomination per candidate and warned you NOT to try to get around this by listing one academy first with one senator and a different one with the other senator. They said if that happened, when they compared the lists that they would still only give you one - and it might not be the one you would have preferred!

    Our congressional district on the other hand is less competitive and allows you to list (and receive) nominations to more than one academy. They said generally if someone is strong enough to receive a nomination, they'll receive them to any they ask for, but of course would still go in order of merit so they'd get it if they are one of the top 10 strongest for that academy, irregardless as to whether they received one for a different academy.

    It's definitely a gamble. Generally once the nomination is received, you can't change your mind and ask for a nomination to a different academy because they've already been awarded to other candidates. However, a lot of interviews aren't until late November or even December, and there's probably a good chance that you'll know if you have an LOA by then. Many MOC's will allow you to change your rankings up to the interview date - especially with a good reason like having received an LOA.

    Overall I think the general recommendation is to list the academies you want, in the order you want, for all the MOC's (ie they should all be the same), unless the MOC's themselves recommend otherwise. If you don't, you could get caught up in MOC's that compare and get asked how you could consider USNA your first choice on one and want USAFA more on the other! However, you should definitely make clear in your essay and your interviews that you would also like to receive a nomination to your number 2 choice if at all possible. A lot of this will depend on how competitive your area is as to whether or not it will be possible.
     
  3. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    I responded to your exact same question in the Nomination forum, not going to post it again.

    You should really confine your identical questions to one section only.
     
  4. hopefulparent

    hopefulparent Member

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    Thanks for the advice.
     
  5. MIDNDAD

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    There is no "perfect" answer to your question. Each MOC and district are different. This is a question of make your choice and live with it.

    In my Mids case, USNA was listed as first choice for MOC and one Senator. USAF listed first for 2nd senator as the back-up plan. As it turns out she got both. There are other stories out there where the nomination was not obtained. Make a choice and good luck.
     
  6. osdad

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    My Mid listed only USNA.

    A week or so after interviewing with Sen #1, she got a call from Sen #2 (staffer) congratulating her for getting a nom from Sen #1 but asking didn't she want to also consider AF or Army or even MMA? (The implication being she could add those even at this late date.) He went on for a minute of two explaining that a nomination does not guarantee admission. When DD mentioned that she had an LOA from NA he said "Disregard everything I just said. Congratulations and good luck in Annapolis."

    But his advice holds true; a nomination does not guarantee admission.

    Its certainly better to have to choose between two or three than to be left with no choice at all.
     
  7. hawk

    hawk ButterBar Dad

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    This issue impacted DS. He has two academies tied as his top choice. And an LOA from one of them.

    The MOC packages had to go in before he visited the non-LOA one overnight, so he really would have liked to defer picking his "first choice" until he's been exposed in detail to both.

    Since we are major metro area in a competitive state for noms, he's also concerned he'll be set aside for the academy with the LOA, and not considered for the other academies. (Freudian slips by MOC staffer refering to "Your xyz academy nomination package" in an email):smile:

    But it's not in his control, and he had to pick a 1st choice for his nom packages based on what he knew at the time.

    If the topic comes up he'll be able to discuss preferences in his MOC interviews. And in many aspects it's a good problem to have with an LOA (and hopefully nom) to at least one of your top choices! :thumb:
     
  8. jbowman55

    jbowman55 USNA Parent 2014

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    At DD's interview with Rep's panel, she was asked if she didn't want to expand her consideration to other academies. She responded she had a 4 year NROTC scholarship so she was going Navy, on way or the other.

    I advise you to be straightforward and not try to play games. If your state/district is competitive, it is unlikely that you will win.
     
  9. Whistle Pig

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    fully concur with bowman. Candor, honesty, focus and commitment to a calling always trump attempts to cover the bases, scoop the system. Now, if/when an MOC comes back and asks about considering alternatives, that's a different matter worthy of consideration.
     
  10. Just_A_Mom

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    :thumb:

    I agree!!!!
     

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