Nominations

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  1. wildblue2020

    wildblue2020 New Member

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    I have received a nomination to USAFA from my senator and congressman. Does having two nominations increase my chance of receiving an appointment?
     
  2. falconfamily

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    The short answer is yes. You now have two tries at an appointment. Good luck!
     
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    Yes...... AND No........

    Each of those nominations is a list (SLATE) of 10 names. So, you have a 1 in 10 chance, 2 times, for an appointment based on mandatory appointments the academy must give to the "SLATES". So, in that regard, like falconfamily mentioned, you have 2 chances. Sort of like have 2 lottery tickets vs only one.

    Now, for the 9 of 10 nominees who DON'T get the appointment from the slate, assuming you are one of those 9, you will then go to the "NATIONAL POOL". This is the pool where the academy can pick as many as they need to fill the remaining slots for the class that year. (Usually around 350-500). In the National Pool, it doesn't matter if you have 1 nomination or 4 nominations. Your odds don't go up in that pool at all. Hope this explains it.
     
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    Thread moved to Nominations.
     
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    Great explanation by Christcorp -- only a few things to add.

    Why is the National Pool 350-500? Because there are approximately 1200 slots each year to USAFA, USMA and USNA. Approximately 500 slots go to the #1s taken from each slate, and approximately 200 slots go to recruited athletes, prep school, those with LOAs, etc.; thus 1200 - (500#1s + 200 recruits/LOAs) = approximately 500 slots in the National Pool (probably best case number -- agree with Christcorp number could range between 500-350).

    What is the size of the National Pool competition? From the class profile sheets, each year about 4000 candidates receive nominations, but only about 2400 of the 4000 end up being judged qualified academically and in physical aptitude by the SA. So the size of the National Pool will be approximately 1700 candidates trying to win one of the 350-500 remaining slots. [2400 - (500#1s + 200 recruits/LOAs) = approximately 1700]

    These numbers are estimates and will vary each year, but they are in the ballpark.
     
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    Hello we are thinking of moving to Korea because of my husbands job, my second son will attend international American high school?? We will rent out our home and still pay taxes. Can DS still get our MOC & senators nom?? How does that work?? Do we need physical residency?? If renting out home how does that work since we don't live in it??
     
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    This is not uncommon, as many Americans live and work overseas. Presumably you will still have a state of residence for tax purposes, where you vote and own property. Doing legwork early to determine how MOCs handle out-of-state residents will be key. Interview can be done by VTC or Skype. More challenging, I would think, are DODMERB medical visits.
     
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    DODMERBS could be handled by 121 General Hospital on Yongsan Garrison or the Air Force clinic at Osan.
     
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    Yep! A former civil service employee of mine took a contractor job in Naples, IT, and I recall his SA-candidate son got permission to go to the Navy clinic there.
     
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    Thank you for reply, so this still applies if he went to boarding school in CA?? So parents live in Korea (with property voting & pay PA tax) but child in CA.??
     
  11. Capt MJ

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    Sure. When I was on USNA staff, a State Dept official posted in India had his son in a Swiss boarding school before he came to USNA. All kinds of folks work OCONUS, have kids with them, or in boarding school, or living with family in other states. The key will be to do the advance legwork and address any challenges early. The MOC office will not be surprised. Nor will the SA.
     
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    This will make great material for essays addressing how he coped with challenges, learning to live more independently, etc.
     
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    Hi I will post my ? here cuz Capt MJ & others seem very knowledgeable;) my older son applied to SA and waiting on Casey & MOC nom this week, he applied to 5 NROTC schools and waiting on NROTC Scholarship. He applied to these schools in order UCBerkley, USC, PennState, Cornell, & Duke. Because these are expensive schools except PennState will it be difficult for him to get 4yr ROTC scholarship?? Should he have applied to more state schools to increase his chances?? Does NROTC pick his school or go with his top choice or give him a choice?? Thx u
     
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    Yes thank you, he has already lived in Korea from ages 3-8, then Singapore ages 8-12, now in PA. I am debating weather to follow my hubby back to Korea or stay in PA with DS, or send him to boarding or homestay?? Very hard decisions
     
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    Blessed mom -- You might consider starting a new thread under the ROTC section. Make sure the title says NROTC so you get the most knowledgeable responders
     
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    My son was awarded a 4yr NROTC scholarship to his first choice school, Purdue where he was also accepted. We live in Iowa. During his interview it was recommended he list at least 1 in state school in his top 3 which he did and prayed to God he would not get Iowa State or he would wait list and ask for a change if he did. My son also applied to University of Michigan, University of IL and Embry Riddle Daytona all pretty expensive except Iowa. I had read on these boards that if your son is qualified they will go down the list of his first choice and see what is open at that school and so on if they want to award him a scholarship. I could be wrong but during my son's NROTC scholarship he was told he had an exemplary application and he would push for my son to get Purdue. We feel very lucky! Still waiting to hear from USNA and USAFA and he had 3 nominations to those (2) USAFA and (1) USNA which are his first choices.

    The other is did your son get accepted to all those schools? That is key. If you dont get accepted by the college then it will not matter if you get a scholarship there and you should have him change his college selection order in his NROTC portal if he didnt get in or he could be assigned by NROTC to a school he wasnt accepted to and you then have a useless scholarship and will need to wait list and ask for a change if awarded to a school he didnt get into.
     
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    Congrats on your sons nominations & ROTC scholarship & Perdue!!! My son did get in PennState his #3 school on his list, haven't heard from other schools, so I guess price of school doesn't matter?? We are waiting on nominations right now, PA is slower compare to other states on nominations his first choice is USNA then USMA then USCGA.
     
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