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  1. 12fahanp

    12fahanp Member

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    Approx how many nominations can each MOC give out? I know each MOC receives over 100 applications, but how many people can they actually give a nomination?
     
  2. Ectriso

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    It depends on the vacancies. Each MOC can only have 5 people that have been charged with his/her nomination at each academy at a time. For each vacancy, the MOC may nominate up to 10 people. For example, my MOC has only 1 vacancy this year so only 10 could be nominated; if he had 2 vacancies then 20 could be nominated, etc. I'm not sure if it is the same thing for the senators.
     
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    It is.

    And that reality, recognizing that senators are looking at statewide pools of candidates vs. MOCs which are dealing with their specific district based on population rather than geography illumines the reality that while important to pursue all avenues for nomination, for most, the MOC's "the man." The major variances are in states where the MOC district is nearly congruent with the state, i.e. states with modest populations and therefore, few MOCs. Not calculus nor brain surgery.
     
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  4. nuensis

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    Usually the MOC will only open up one, maybe two slots to fill for each year. A slot, once filled, doesn't open up again until that cadet/midshipman leaves the academy, and MOCs need to make sure that there is always at least one slot available each year.

    Depending on the nomination method your MOCs use, the type of nomination may also be important. A principal nominee is guaranteed an appointment if otherwise qualified (medically, scholastically, physically). If the principal nominee is given an appointment, the other nine will go into the national pool. If the principal nominee is not otherwise qualified, USNA will either go down the list in order (in the case of numbered alternates) or choose one of the other nine based on WCS (in the case of competing alternates).

    If the nomination method is the competitive method, the best nominee (that is otherwise qualified) will be appointed based on WCS.

    Even if you are not the principal nominee, if you are one of the other nine, you are still considered a candidate with a nomination. Thus if you have an LOA, that nomination, along with any others you may have, will fulfill the requirement for a nomination and lead to an appointment. The more nominations you have, the easier it is to match an LOA with a nomination and the easier it is for USNA to award your guaranteed appointment.
     
  5. 12fahanp

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    I got my nom from my senator and I'm in CT, are you saying that if I have more than one nomination, I have a better chance of getting an appointment? I heard that one is good enough and that the MOC don't want you to take spots away from other candidates by going to more than one interview if you have already recieved a nom.
     
  6. Mongo

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    You heard wrong. Only one appointment will definitely be made from the Senator's list of 10. If you are his principal nominee, great. If not, all other nominees will enter the national pool. No one knows if they are competitive in this pool.

    Apply to all sources and never turn down the chance to pursue each and every source.
     
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    Some MOC takes the view of that one nomination is good enough. I personaly disagree. I have seen some candidates with two or three nominations that did not get an appointment. The reality is that in order to get an appointment, you have to #1 in whatever MOC vacancy you are being matched up or rank high enough in other nomination category (i.e. Presidential, National Waiting List, and etc). So getting a nomination itself sometimes is not good enough. It is like making the playoff but not winning the Superbowl.
     
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    Very nice factual explanation of the process, good job. :thumb:
     
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    Connecticut Senator or Congressional does not nominate principal candidate. They use the competitive method. Senate office does request that if you have been nominated by one Senator that you withdraw your request for a nomination and interview from the second Senate Committee (They alternate first interview each year). Congressional nomination means that you can get two MOC nominations from one state. One from Senator and one from representative. Other avenues of nomination mean that you may get more. The more the better. nuncios has it right on. "Charged Nomination" can be misleading. You can be nominated and not be "Charged" and then appointed from the national pool and never charged to your MOC. We had thirteen admissions in my Mid's class for five congressional districts and two Senators and five graduated.
     
  10. Craig

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    National Pool

    Can you elaborate on the National Pool? I understand the 5 per congressman. Does this mean appointments are offered to candidates from the national pool that do not do count against their 5? If they do, I missed that in all the reading.
     
  11. nuensis

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    https://admissions.usafa.edu/RRC/Congressional_Guide(20090210).pdf

    Just read that. It has everything to know about Congressional nominations, and quite a bit about the other nomination sources as well.
     
  12. Craig

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    Link

    Thanks. Good link.
     

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