Norwich vs The Citadel

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  1. omfg its jeremy

    omfg its jeremy New Member

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    I've googled and googled but I can't find a direct comparison (besides yahoo answers) between Norwich and The Citadel. I'm hoping there are some grad's here that can help me out a little on what both schools are like. I've been accepted and visited to both but now comes the decision to choose between the two. I have no ROTC scholarship (plan on trying to get a 3 1/2, Navy ROTC w/ Marine option) and I chose a Physics major but may be switching to Computer Science.
    So I'm just wondering about the pro's and con's for both schools.
    Thanks for any and all help everyone.
     
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    Both are great, but you should ask yourself location location location. Afterall, 4 years will be spent at the chosen institution.
     
  3. SF49ers

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    Both are fine institutions, but there are several differences.

    1. The Corp of Cadets at The Citadel is the undergraduate program, while at Norwich it is only a portion of the undergraduate population. That also gets into the size of the school. The Citadel is about 2100 strong, so class sizes are small. Norwich is larger as I understand it.

    2. Location: Vermont and Charleston, SC are very different. I don't know about the particular city or surroundings of Norwich, but Charleston is wonderful.

    3. Military Traditions. Each military school has its own varied military traditions that are unique to that institution. For example, The Citadel and VMI are the only schools that still brace.



    I hope that you did a pre-knob visit when you came down here to The Citadel. That is about as close to being a knob as you can get before being one yourself. As a Citadel cadet, I would highly recommend The Citadel. It's not easy, but its worth it. It just comes down to your personal preference.

    Just an interesting fact: Each of the last few years, the number of applicants has increased to a record high, and this year's matriculating class was the third largest in school history (721). Next year's is predicted to be just as big, if not bigger.
     
  4. omfg its jeremy

    omfg its jeremy New Member

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    i did an overnight visit at norwich and am hopefully doing one soon at the citadel, but im trying to figure out when a 17 hour car ride one way would work for me.
     
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    criminal justice has been another major ive been considering. how is that as far as the departments go?
     
  6. sprog

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    It's called the "strain" at VMI, if you want to get technical. This, of course, is a minor point.
     
  7. Fuji

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    As was stated in an earlier reply - LOCATION.

    I graduated from Norwich. I fear if I had gone to the Citadel - I would not have graduated. Why? Location. Charleston - is beautiful. I would have had far more distractions if I had gone to SC as opposed to VT.

    Both institutions are good. You can't go wrong with either choice.

    Where you can go wrong - and this is me typing as an admissions counselor as opposed to a Norwich grad - is by making a choice of college based on academic majors. You may have an interest in a particular area - but, we college admission people know - you academic interests - will change.

    At the college I work at now - we accept into the college - not by major - because we know most of the students who come into our college - are completely undecided academically (I happen to think that those students who "say" the know what they want to major in are actually lying to themselves - they just don't know it, yet.)

    I am glad someone else had posted the fact that they changed majors - many college freshmen do.

    Lheck out the academic offerings offered by both colleges - but, I highly recommend making your decision based on;

    Location
    Clubs
    Activities
    Sports

    While you "may" have an interest in a particular academic area...my hope is that their are some clubs, activities, sports that you know for sure that you would like to do.

    I wish you well with your college choice (although I do hope you choose Norwich!)

    Fuji
     
  8. Kernal D

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    Jeremy...all the comments above are great. For clarification...we have 1250+ in our Corps of Cadets and approximately 800+ Residential and Commuter students. If you have been on campus you are aware of the general size, etc. The bottom line I believe in anyone's final decision is "fit." When you think back to your visits what were the pros and cons of each institution in your mind...and which one would be the best "fit" for you? No matter what your decision...as stated previously...all are fine institutions. Yes...location is important...but you can't go skiing in Charleston! But you can get some fine southern food! I have friends who have graduated from all the SMCs...so good luck in your decision...and best wishes for a successful career no matter what you decide.
     
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    One has a rifle team and one doesnt. I wish Norwich did :frown:
     
  10. Kernal D

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    We do as well Annette! I believe the biggest issue is cleaning up the old range to put in a new one...and somebody is going to have to pay for it to happen. Because of the lead in the old range...the clean-up costs are very expensive...as I've been told. Fingers crossed...someday!
     
  11. Kernal D

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    Jeremy...Norwich has a rather large CJ department and many of our Cadets are CJ majors. As Fuji said though...many students will change their majors over time. My youngest son started out in Mechanical Engineering. That lasted a year. Today he is loving life as a Math major. (I have no idea where he gets it!) Consider...that at Norwich we graduate more Geology majors every year than we enroll. Students take Professor Westerman's Geology class as an elective...and all of sudden it's all about Rocks! Hope we are helping you through the maze!
     
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    Kernal,

    My daughter is interested in the education major. Do you have many of those in the corps?
     
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    Physics major

    My daughter was accepted into the physics program at Norwich. She also got a tidy little scholarship. She hasn't made her final decision, but Norwich is one of her top choices.:smile:
     
  14. Kernal D

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    Tucker92...Yes Sir! I will contact the Dean of the program tomorrow...and see if I can get you a number and some additional information.
     
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    Tucker92...here is a direct quote from Professor Bryne who oversees the Education Department: Hello Skip, It’s not problematic, for the Corps, if they start as freshmen. People who are in our program carry a double major; education and some other content area. For example, Psychology. We do have a solid group of education majors. I have over 30 people in my foundation courses. Hope this helps. Diane
     
  16. omfg its jeremy

    omfg its jeremy New Member

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    well if anyone has been wondering, i have decided on norwich. its closer to home, i love skiing, and most importantly...norwich offers more majors that interest me. thanks for all the help everyone
     
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    Look forward to meeting you in August!
     
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    Jeremy,

    Congratulations on your choice of Norwich University!

    Fuji
    Norwich 84
     
  19. glen

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    I am a Citadel grad and volunteer recruiter in the mid-atlantic. The Citadel, like VMI, is primarily focused on its undergraduate Corps of Cadets, and the campuses of both schools are run as military institutions. At The Citadel, there are a few full time undergraduate enlisted Marines (MECEPS) attending classes with Cadets to earn officer commissions, and a few veteran students, but otherwise no civilian students in the undergraduate program. There are civilian students who attend evening graduate business and engineering program classes. I know very little about Norwich University, but I believe the main distinction is that Norwich (like Virginia Tech, Texas A&M and North Georgia College, which also have a Corps of Cadets), has a combined civilian campus where Cadets and civilian undergraduates attend classes together.

    Good luck in your college selection

    Regards, Glen
     
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    Glen- welcome to the forum:thumb: - sent you a PM.
     

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