NROTC Disciplined

I am not aware of the command structure in NROTC. What rank O2,3,4,5 is the XO?

Just curious.


I believe he is a Commander 04 or 05

CO is a Capt. 06

their MOI is a Marine Capt 03
 
update

Daughter met with her XO on Thursday after a couple days to collect thoughts. I passed along my opinion mixed with advice from several of you (and thanks!)

its a long long story, so I'll condense it down.

DD met with XO, and her Lt advisor. She did as I suggested, acknowledged that there were a few minor scrapes in the past, she had moved on and had made a concerted effort to improve her performance as a leader. Then asked XO to explain what was going on and permit her to do the same. They had a very open and frank discussion and tensions on both sides were put at ease.

She was able to set the record straight. (since she was never given that opportunity prior.

She explained what she felt had been the problem: two mids that have a problem with her and have since freshman o. they have a habit of jumping chain of command and have several times for minor things taking complaints up the ladder. Knowing this and their history of picking a fight and *****ing about everything, DD had given them a very wide berth with little to no contact other that what was needed. (there are to many extenuating issues with this person to get into, slacker seems to fit well)

an issue came up a few weeks ago that her bf was involved in, it was a very minor misunderstanding of a schedule. One of the parties involved was put out and felt they were being used. Turns out it was a very simple misunderstanding. However this person ran to staff side and said they were singled out again.

(sorry I don't want to give specifics)

longstory short. DD and BF called in because their name came up again. (might add this is a whole new command side that came on this fall, non of them have had any dealings with DD and her BF in the past, they both had a great working relationship with past staff side)

Thats when they were called before the XO.

There was no paperwork, there was no investigation. One sided accusation

XO chewed them out (separately).

I their meeting Thursday, she asked to explain herself and the situation as she saw it. She explained that in all of the prior incidences, staff side did nothing to get both sides of the story there was never any investigation. Once she explained this to the XO new light was shed.

In the end she a had a very productive meeting with the XO and discussed some of the leadership issues that lead to the situation and what could be done to prevent a situation like this in the future.

XO explained that (he may have been to harsh) this was not a big deal in the whole world picture. She responded that to her and other mids it was a big deal, because right now this is the only world they know and he threatened to take it away, she had a right to be concerned and ask questions.

I know my dd has a bit of wild side, but her heart and mind are in the right place. I never doubted her. Probably here biggest failing is wanting things done right and very little tolerance to those who "don't give a damn" and think they are entitled to things they are not.

One thing the XO did tell her and I believe he is correct and she sees it now, was when she pulled back her contact with the problemed mids, she put up a wall that others perceived wrongly. She should have continued to engage but with advice from her leaders.

In the end it looks like things are better, she is on good footing with the XO

XO sees problems on his command side and is working to correct them.

Two problemed mids that started this mess have been disciplined.

I'm breathing better.

Daughter is smiling for the first time in weeks and finals are almost over.


Thank all of you for your concern and advice. I'll keep you posted as to further actions if any.

this is scarey stuff and shouldn't be taken lightly. When anyone threatens dis-enrollment it gets serious!




postscript: there was never any mention or concern of fraternization. More the problem was if BFs name was mentioned in regards to anything, DD's name would be right there in same sentence. I've been beating my head on the wall trying to get that one across though.
Your DD is learning a valuable leadership lesson here - don't let your problem children fester. This is exactly what the ROTC program is about. She will find slackers with similar issues in the service and will now know that she can't set them off to the side and expect the problem to go away.

So few students get these life lessons in their formal schooling.

She should consider herself lucky that she has a XO who has taught her well.

Best of luck to her and you.!
 
Thanks for the update gbo3. Glad things seem to have worked out OK. I think your DD took the right approach to this. Let things cool down for a couple days and then sit down for a frank two way discussion. Good on her!
 
Thanks for all the support. I was pretty concerned about her, its been a really tough semester and then this popped up.

Yes she has and is learning a number of life and leadership lessons, funny how they actually start listening to you. Only took 20 years.

a couple updates.

one of the individuals in question, sent a text to dd tonight, apologizing for her actions. Seems the fire got a bit to hot.

bf's 1st sgt. mom stopped by the battalion to discuss some leadership issues with the MOI, I think she may have adjusted his attitude a bit. Knowing her, I would be surprised.
 
Thanks for all the support. I was pretty concerned about her, its been a really tough semester and then this popped up.

Yes she has and is learning a number of life and leadership lessons, funny how they actually start listening to you. Only took 20 years.

a couple updates.

one of the individuals in question, sent a text to dd tonight, apologizing for her actions. Seems the fire got a bit to hot.

bf's 1st sgt. mom stopped by the battalion to discuss some leadership issues with the MOI, I think she may have adjusted his attitude a bit. Knowing her, I would be surprised.

LMAO. You don't mess with a mom... 1st Sgt or not! :biggrin:
 
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