NROTC educational delay chances

OP....you have really said nothing in any of your posts to enable me to understand WHY you want to pursue USNA or NROTC. As Midwest said above, it sounds like you have a one-track mind towards medical school.
 
I've wanted to do this since 6th grade. I - Mean - Business!

I have to agree with others because to me this one statement says it all. Typically what you will notice here is I have wanted to be an officer since I was in 6th grade, with the intended major being the secondary. Not I want to be a doctor and serving in the military is secondary.

I am not trying to be rude, or harsh. I am just saying that this is how it appears/read to me.

I agree with Midwest ROTC might get in the way. As I said before ROTC is not going to be 3 hours a week. You will be assigned jobs in ROTC.

Unless I missed it somewhere you have yet to say which branch. That matters too. AFROTC scholarship is what we like to call 2+2. As a sophomore you will meet another board foe Summer Field Training. No preference is given to those cadets on scholarship. If not selected, chances are they will disenroll you, and you will lose the scholarship. Thus, it is why we call it a 2 + 2 scholarship.
~ FYI, the selection rate varies year by year based on the pool size. This year it was 91%, last year it was 58%.
~~ Now here is the twist. They may not give preference regarding selection if you are on scholarship, but they definitely give preference to your major (tech.non-tech) and if you intend to go rated. Depending on how they deem your major, you may be viewed as non-tech/non-rated. In the year that they had a 58% selected, only 17% of non-tech/non-rated made the cut.

For AFROTC and NROTC 80-85% of all scholarships go to STEM majors. Now you may say I don't need the scholarship, but just keep in mind that the bigger picture is the trend for them is STEM degrees for their military members.

I wish you the best.
 
OP... Sounds like ROTC might get in the way of what you really want to do - med school.

Why? I will do something if it makes sense. What I mean is if a friend is like "let's go ring people's doorbells" or "switch to this class so we can be together" things like that. I can take orders as long as they make sense and usually they do.
 
Wish you luck in the future at Med school. Like others have said, there is nothing in your posts that lead us to believe that you want to serve in the military. It seems that you are looking for a scholarship opportunity to get you to med school, not service to the country. There is a thread about those that left the Academy and I remember a comment about someone leaving, because what he really wanted was to become a dentist. Bottom line, chances of med school after rotc or sa are slim, if you are not committed to become a military officer, then I believe you should look at a different scholarship path to med school.
 
Why? I will do something if it makes sense. What I mean is if a friend is like "let's go ring people's doorbells" or "switch to this class so we can be together" things like that. I can take orders as long as they make sense and usually they do.

Just me, but I did not take that away from Midwest's post.

I took it as, you do not understand the demands that will be placed upon you as a ROTC cadet/mid. It can and will get in your way academically.
~ I have said this multiple times...view ROTC as a PT job in college, doing 20 hours a week as you go up the ladder.
~~ Leave the ED chances alone for a minute. Let's assume that it is possible. Now how do you get it?
~~~ You get it by being successful in ROTC, which means leadership positions. The reason why is that you will need the CoCs support for that option. You can't just show up for PT and LLAB. You need to be ALL IN with ROTC too.
~~~~ For AFROTC, the CoC's voice accounts for 40-50% (can't remember which %) when it comes to not only SFT selection, but your career after commissioning.

It had nothing to do with taking orders in my mind when Midwest, gokings, proudofmyboy or myself stated that ROTC might not be a good fit for you because it appears your priority is not serving. Your priority is to become a doctor, and if ROTC can help you financially (scholarship) along the way of becoming a doc, than you are willing to serve.
~ All of us have stated, that nothing in your posts say you want to serve, all your posts about becoming a doc.

If that is the case, I am willing to bet that the chances of you getting a scholarship will be low, people here know me, they know I am not a betting person. The reason why is for a ROTC scholarship they will interview you by a PMS at a detachment. These people are usually an O5 or O6. They will be able to see through this very quickly. Their opinion is part of your score for the ROTC selection board.
~ A typical question is what is your career goal in XYZ branch? It usually is followed up with what if you don't get that field? Reread your posts, have you stated anywhere that you have a plan B if you don't get ED?
~~ Trust me, I know kids change their mind, but even in your own words, you have stated that since you were in 6th grade all you wanted to be was a doc and YOU MEAN BUSINESS. Thus, if that is true, than you have no plan B as a military officer and appear to have tunnel vision for your future. Nothing wrong with that, but probably not a good match for you or the military.

OBTW, for NROTC they also have a twist. If not on scholarship aka contracted, you will meet a board also during your sophomore year, commonly referred to as a side load. Kinnem will correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge if not brought in from their programmer side, you will be dis-enrolled from NROTC starting your junior year.
~ Again, if you think that they are going to offer you a side load just because you have strong grades, but little involvement within the NROTC program, well than I have a great piece of property in Florida to sell you, it might be considered a little wet, but with enough truckloads of dirt we can fix that!

AROTC is the one that is different because they offer Guard and Reserve options. AF/NROTC do not offer that to kids commissioning via their program. You will go AD from AF and NROTC.
 
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+1 to Pima. She is correct that a college programmer who does not achieve what they call "advanced standing" will be disenrolled at the end of their sophomore year.

She is also correct (as is everyone else) about (N/A/AF)ROTC being very challenging and time consuming, And the longer you're in it the more challenging and time-consuming it becomes.... just when you wanted that additional time to concentrate on your major. You will receive more and more tasks and leadership roles, sometime you'll even have two leadership roles plus additional tasks "as required". My son was just a history major but he was always short of time and a bit stressed out. I can't imagine how other more difficult majors accomplish it. Nevertheless some do. Just be aware of what you're getting into.
 
sometime you'll even have two leadership roles plus additional tasks "as required".

For our DS in AFROTC, as a 300 POC (jr), you not only had a job, but also would be a mentor for at least 1 GMC. DS had 2. You were their go to person for one on one contact, during their 2 years as a GMC until you graduated and they became a POC.

DS also joined a military fraternity (Arnie Air), thus, for him it was a lot of time mgmt and juggling.

alpha and candidates,
Also realize we are talking only about attending a traditional college. Go to an SMC, that is a state college as well, such as, VT or TAMU, you will not only have ROTC on your plate, but the Corps of Cadets. You can be in the Corps, and not ROTC, but you can't be in ROTC and not in the Corps.
 
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I'm not sure. You follow orders unless they are illegal. Making sense has nothing to do with it. At TBS DS had to do a body count. He reported it to the Platoon leader and it was correct. 5 minutes later the Platoon leader told him to take a body count. DS's reply... "I just did this. Do you want me to do it again?". Answer "Yes". Made absolutely no sense to DS but he did it anyway as commanded.
 
Because if it's a platoon of Marines... The numbers can change in 30 seconds Kinnem! Hahaha! I joke... But so true!

On the serious side... 100% right. If it's legal you follow. And good luck questioning a superior on orders, especially in front of other people.
 
I'm not sure. You follow orders unless they are illegal. Making sense has nothing to do with it. At TBS DS had to do a body count. He reported it to the Platoon leader and it was correct. 5 minutes later the Platoon leader told him to take a body count. DS's reply... "I just did this. Do you want me to do it again?". Answer "Yes". Made absolutely no sense to DS but he did it anyway as commanded.

That's not what I meant. Now come on be reasonable. I'm not a disrespectful idiot.
 
Why? I will do something if it makes sense. What I mean is if a friend is like "let's go ring people's doorbells" or "switch to this class so we can be together" things like that. I can take orders as long as they make sense and usually they do.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend as I can only take you at your word, and that's exactly what you said. No reason to turn it back around on me. I think the point about the ROTC load and consider if you really want it, has been made. I'm outta here. :zip:
 
Because if it's a platoon of Marines... The numbers can change in 30 seconds Kinnem! Hahaha! I joke... But so true!

You're right of course. At TBS half of them probably ran over to The Hawk. (Don't know what they called the bar in your day but suspect it is the same). :D
 
Alpha...Your words are your worst enemy...Actually, I think they reflect who you are and why folks on this this Forum have made their respective comments. Personally, I am Retired Navy and so is my Husband. I came up through the ranks, so have a good understanding of the Entire Picture and what it takes to be successful. You have done nothing but shown us that your goal is to be a Doc...Great...Go for it...You are not what the Military is looking for in an Officer. Sorry, but that is the truth. You are wasting every ones time at this point and have been disrespectful to those in this Forum that deserve your respect. Get over it and move on.
 
It was the Hawk. My room was approximately 28 steps from it. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to put a bar in the barracks if a bunch of 2ndLts!
 
It was the Hawk. My room was approximately 28 steps from it. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to put a bar in the barracks if a bunch of 2ndLts!

Wow! It's in the chow hall now. :)
 
You are not what the Military is looking for in an Officer. Sorry, but that is the truth.


Wow. That is a bit harsh and quite judgmental.
 
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