NROTC graduates to commission into the IRR

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  1. Bird85

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  2. Pima

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    What I found interesting is that they only commission 800 mids through ROTC a yr
    I never suspected that NROTC was that small.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand. Does this mean that newly commissioned graduates of NROTC will have the benefits, but not the paycheck, of active duty ensigns for 5 - 12 months?
     
  4. Pima

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    YES.

    They will receive their commissioning upon graduation, but will not be AD until they report, which can be between 5-12 months. If they get married the day after graduation, their spouse will not be a dependent since they are not AD. They are eligible for benefits, because they are contracted to go AD and just waiting their time.

    The AF has done this for DECADES. ROTC members are commissioned upon graduation, but depending on their career field they can wait a long time before they are AD.

    SA grads go casual status to a base/post if they don't immediately go to a school. ROTC grads will come home to live with you until they leave, and need to find a job to support them. They DO NOT GET PAID...if they have this lag and have student loans, there is a way around the repayment (6 month point) by showing that they are not AD yet, and they traditionally will get an extension for the repayment start date, for about 6 more months...CAVEAT, that is what I have heard anecdotally.

    In the AF, UPT is the most competitive slot, thus, the ROTC grad will have to wait until the SA grad class has entered these schools before the AF starts taking off the ROTC list.

    With the Navy saying 12 months, I would assume this is for their high demand fields also.

    The way promotion works for AFROTC is you will have 2 dates. AD and DOR. AD is your commissioning date, DOR is they take the commissioning date and the AD date (report) and avg the 2. For example, Bullet's AD was May, his DOR was October because his report was March. He got his 2 yr pay increase based on his commission date. His promotion line number was based on DOR. He was eligible for retirement based on his AD date, not his DOR.

    It also gets nutty because if you go to a school with incentive pay. you can have 3 dates. Longetivity pay (AD commission), DOR where you make rank like O2,O3, and then flight pay when you actually reported for duty to the school. For us, there were many times in the beginning where we got increments every few months because of this system...May for Longetivity, October for DOR and March for incentive. SA grads, basically get these increments very close, for example, longetivity and rank will be the same month, incentive could be 30 days later.

    It becomes confusing at times because boards are based on DOR, so if you graduate in May, but your DOR is October. Then you fall into the next fiscal yr for promotion since their fiscal yr runs Oct 1 to Sept 30th.

    You can graduate in 12, like the SA grads, but actually be a yr behind for promotion.

    CAVEAT: That is the AF system.
     
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  5. CL1VE

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    I was reading the article toward the end it mentions Ensigns, not 2nd LTs. Does this only apply to Navy option Midshipmen and not Marine option? I'm Class of '14 so it's a long way off for me but curiosity got the better of me and I wasn't sure if it affected the Marines.
     

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