NROTC mixed messages

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by nofodad, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. nofodad

    nofodad Member

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    DS has been wait-listed at his first choice GW and accepted at HC. Both have NROTC unit and since he was not offered an NROTC scholarship he would be a college programmer. Was just told today that he could not reapply for the scholarship if he joined the NROTC at GW, but was told that he could re-apply for scholarship at HC (got GW info today HC info last week) has something changed? He thought, the process went, re-application, then if denied again applicatin for Advanced Standing in order to compete for a commission, did we miss something?
     
  2. kinnem

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    If you're not enrolled in NROTC you can re-apply for the high school scholarship your freshman year. There are limits on how many credit hours you can have which is listed on the NROTC web site, so make sure you don't bump up against them.

    As an NROTC participant you can apply for a side-load scholarship. This is only open to college programmer midshipmen and it comes from a different pool. This is a national competition and the number of scholarships is limited. For example, for class of 2015 there were only 80 3-year scholarships to be awarded this year. I believe next year, for class of 2015 there will be 120 2-year scholarships awarded.

    If a 2015 midshipmen is not awarded a 2-year scholarship next year, then they are considered for Advanced Standing via the same application. If awarded Advanced Standing they will receive the stipend only for their last two years. No tuition $ involved. If not awarded advanced Standing, you are dropped from the program. I don't know this, but I imagine the number awarded Advanced Standing depends on the number of additional officers they feel they'll need from the NROTC ranks for that class year.

    I imagine GW was answering with respect to the high school scholarship, and HC was answering with respect to the sideload scholarship. I could be wrong about that though as I think each school is allotted a certain number of contracts. If so, then perhaps GW is pushing that limit already? This last paragraph is just guesswork on my part though.

    Sounds like he might be better off at HC, but then as a college programmer he can wait until he figures out where he is going. If her decides to participate in NROTC, when he signs up for classes he should sign up for Navy 101 and also Navy Lab. This will trigger the enrollment process in the unit. At least that's how it works at DSs unit. Of course communicating with the unit beforehand is a good idea. Freshman Orientation is usually the week prior to when everyone else arrives at school. Orientation isn't technically required but its the best way to bond, and anyone who doesn't attend will be playing catchup.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  3. brakeharder

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    Not sure about how GW does it but as a parent of a 4C finishing up his first year at HC I know that at least two previously non-scholarship students in the unit were awarded scholarships (3 yrs, I believe) based upon there performance this year. Real world proof that this can happen but as many other posters on this board have referenced those numbers can vary greatly from year to year. I also think the scholarship you apply for coming out of high school and the scholarship you apply for while a "college programmer" comes from different "buckets" of Navy funding which could account for the differences between the two school's NROTC units in how they allocate their budget - one choosing to allocate money to scholarships for existing program members, one choosing not to allocate funds for that purpose. Also, FWIW the experience for my DS at the HC unit has been tremendous - the unit staff and leadership have been outstanding and after watching the President's Review(annual unit awards) last week and seeing that a substantial number of seniors were selected for some of the Navy's most competitive postings it brought home the point that this unit's plan for creating exceptional Naval officer's is right on track. Best wishes to your DS - If GW works out then he is at a great school and hopefully a great unit. HC as a second choice is a really nice option.
     
  4. nofodad

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    HC vs. GW

    Thanks for your help kinnem and brakeharder. If GW picks him it'll be an easy choice. Any idea if those scholarships granted at HC were tier III? I'm afraid that is an added wrinkle in the equation-tough to qualify for.
     
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    No idea on Tier 3 at HC. I have seen it happen though and to kids interested in International Relations at that!
     
  6. brakeharder

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    Additional detail regarding the scholarships awarded to HC students during the 2011/12 academic year. Three students applied, two were granted 3 yr. scholarships, one was not granted a scholarship. All three students were Tier II majors - as a side note, HC does not offer any Tier I majors.
     

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