NROTC scholarship issue

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by nrotc parent, Sep 2, 2016.

  1. nrotc parent

    nrotc parent New Member

    Sep 2, 2016
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    I am parent of a full-time college student on full NROTC scholarship. My son received summons for minor in possession. With no previous infractions and extensive community service in addition to NROTC service rather than contest the summons in court, he has the option of using a first offense program in the state which allows community service and clean record for a period of time and the record would remain clean. Would taking this first offense user program be cause to lose his scholarship? Would he even need to report since the program is to leave a clean record?
  2. Pima

    Pima Parent

    Nov 28, 2007
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    He needs to inform his CoC immediately, as in yesterday. I don't know how NROTC works, but for AFROTC they must inform them within 48 hours of any summons/citation...even as simple as getting a speeding ticket for doing 32 in a 25 zone.

    Hire an attorney now. He needs legal advice to get this totally off of his record impo.
    1. I am assuming since you stated a minor, you meant alcohol, not MJ.
    2. Prior to commissioning they will be required to fill out a security clearance form. The AF TS clearance, which i am almost 100% is like the Navy is over 60 pages.
    ~They will ask questions regarding drug and alcohol use. They will ask if you have ever been...regarding police. They will require at least 3 people to be interviewed that are not family members. Those people will be also asked if they know if they have ever had anything like this issue. They will be interviewed by a federal agent and the interview for a TS lasts @30-45 minutes.
    3. Taking the 1st offense program does not necessarily mean he is cleared from a TS clearance aspect. Hence, hire an attorney now.

    I don't know if it would cause him to lose his scholarship, but because he is on scholarship, my advice is he better pull high grades, max that PFA, show up early and prepared for PT/LLAB, be a team played, iows... illustrate to them that it was a 1x in a life time act and they have no need to worry that he will repeat this ever again. The adage of spit on me once, shame on you, spit on me twice shame on me.

    I am sorry if I just made your stomach fall down to your knees. All you can do now is make sure he informed them and you hire an attorney to see if somehow they can "downgrade" the summons to remove the "possession" for the summons.
  3. NavyNOLA

    NavyNOLA Member

    Mar 11, 2016
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    Your son needs to report this to his NROTC class advisor immediately. Failure to do so is choosing to hide this event from his chain of command, which will be viewed in an incredibly negative light; any interactions with the police or the courts need to be disclosed to the chain of command, period. Units have a way of finding out about events like this. However, do not waste time or money on an attorney. Your son is not the first midshipman to receive a MIP summons. Community service or whatever else the court requires to get this expunged is commonplace. He will also face consequences from NROTC, most likely starting with a Performance Review Board. As a result of the PRB, he could face probation, leave of absence, or disenrollment; it has implications for the scholarship. However, assuming this is a first offense and there isn't more to this story than you're offering, him coming forward and admitting his actions will most likelay translate to probation(no impact on benefits). From that point on, he'd absolutely have to keep his nose clean and work hard in the program.

    If he doesn't disclose it to the unit, maybe they don't find out. But if they do, the consequences will be significantly more serious than if he admits his actions. Integrity is one of the cornerstones of this program. Intentionally hiding this from his chain of command is the opposite of integrity.

    As mentioned above, students go through security clearance processes during and after NROTC. Tickets, summons, arrests, etc. are thoroughly investigated. Lying now, and having it discovered later, can sink a student/officer; I've seen this before.

    Honesty is always the best policy. Taking responsibility for ones actions are part of NROTC, and also part of growing up. If you help your son hide this event, what kind of lessons are you teaching him? If your son doesn't do what's right, what actions will he take in the future when more is on the line?

    He needs to talk to his class advisor, bottom line. If he were my midshipman, I'd appreciate his honesty, and I'd keep it in mind as we took further action.
    USMAROTCFamily, AROTC-dad and Capt MJ like this.

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