NROTC scholarship real value?

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  1. DocDadGoat

    DocDadGoat Uncle of SA Candidate

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    Call me confused. Nephew is awarded NROTC scholarship in December. Placed at first choice which at the time was in state public U. He spoke with NROTC who led him to believe that if he was unsure, he could be wait listed at another school. In late December he was wait listed at OUT of state public u. He was told that since wait listed early, there should be good chance of opening. There was never a mention of not being able to go from in state to out of state. Now he is being told that he may not transfer from in state to out of state. He is told that an in state student would get preference over him, even if they have only been wait listed a week and he has been wait listed for 4 months.

    He has been wait listed for 4 months and he is told this now? Why was this not told when he was first wait listed?

    So even though the scholarship states $180,000 it is not the real value, and it looks like nephew's is worth $100,000. He is happy to have the scholarship, but wishes he had known the real value.

    This seems deceptive. So beware! Really hate this for him as he turned down other scholarships and other schools thinking he could use the scholarship at out of State school if they had an opening. This out of state school offered more scholarships, honors program, etc. which would cover room and board. They offered more than in state U. But it is a no go to transfer to out of state school from in state u.
     
  2. LTLONGAGO

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    Yes - This in-state v. out-of-state v. private school issue needs to be advertised much more clearly up front on the NROTC website, application, and in the award letter sent out with an acceptance. Kids and parents need to be able to plan.

    Which out-of-state school does your nephew want? One idea is to pay an enrollment deposit at both schools your nephew wants (the in-state and the out-of-state), and wait to see if anything opens up at the out-of-state NROTC unit over the summer. The enrollment deposit is a relatively small investment to keep both options open. Although, it is not worth paying two depoists if NROTC Pensacola is saying that the out-of-state school's wait list is so full that nothing will ever open up, as they have said the case it at Villanova, Univ of San Diego, Colorado, Penn State, Citadel, Embry Riddle, and Boston U. Or, if they are saying he is 100% only eligible for in-state tuition because that is what he got awarded initially.

    When my son got on wait lists in Feb, I got the impression that the NROTC OVERALL goal was to have 50% of kids at in-state tuition and 50% other. I did not get the impression that the in-state rule was specific to individual kids, but I could be mistaken. If they are limiting him to in-state tuition only, that should have been stated in the award letter so that he didn't get his hopes up and waste his time getting on out-of-state wait lists. I guess I would want to clarify that issue one more time with Pensacola. Is he really limited, or is it just a problem that the college he wants already has too many in-state people on the wait list and that he won't likely get a spot?

    Since most school deposits are due May 1, it is definitely time to make a decision. Some say that would be "immoral" to deposit at two school, but we are talking about a lot of money and about kids who are willing to give service to their country during and after college. They deserve a break! Ask if NROTC thinks he might have a chance of still getting into that other unit over the summer, as things settle down and they have a good grip on who is going where in-state and out-of-state.

    AFROTC makes it very clear in their scholarship award letters and on their website how much money kids get for college tuition, and what percentage of kids will receive certain amounts. 75% of AFROTC awardees got Type 7 scholarships for four years of in-state only tuition this year. They could, however, take those scholarship to a private or out-of-state school, but they would only get $18K for three years if they did. Only 5% of AFROTC awardees got the full private or public anywhere school tuition offer. It appears that the Air Force seems to give out less scholarship money overall, so NROTC seems the more generous program right now for kids who want to join the military and are flexible between the services. I am definitely NOT complaining about NROTC, because it offers amazing opportunities for kids. However, the wait list and in-state v. out-of-state rules need to be clearer up front.

    I am sending you a PM also.
     
  3. DocDadGoat

    DocDadGoat Uncle of SA Candidate

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    Wait list confusion

    Admission fees were paid to 3 of the 5 universities where he is accepted and two housing fees BEFORE he found out about the no-go. Do you know what termination charges are when you have to abort the housing contract? Yes, I agree they should have been more upfront at the beginning and about the in state number of NROTC vrs. the out of state students NROTC, as nephew had no idea and the responses to wait listed letters do not mention this either.

    Clearly stated "Individuals are placed on the wait list in the order that their requests are received" "If and when a space becomes available individuals will be contacted IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE LISTED."

    There is no mention of in state vrs. out of state student in the above statement. This omission of this important fact is a deception on the part of the Naval ROTC. There is actually another word for when someone is deceived by leaving out an important fact.

    Also Naval ROTC Pensacola needs to let students know that IF they choose the go to the out of state school on their own for a year and apply for a 3 year, they will not be selected because they are considered out of state.

    Reality is this....nephew's scholarships make up the difference in what NROTC would pay for in-state vrs. out of state. So either way, the NROTC would pay the same or expend the same amount of dollars on him whether he is in state or out of state. He worked hard to get these scholarships at this school only to find out that he can't really be wait listed at an out of state school.

    I will not name schools because he has been told that there has already been movement at the school of his choice and yes, people wait listed after him were moved in to open positions.

    SO HEADS UP TO THOSE WHO SEEK NROTC SCHOLARSHIPS AND REALIZE THE OFFER OF $180,000 LOOKS GOOD BUT IS NOT THE AMOUNT REALLY THERE.
     
  4. Pima

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    One thing to realize is the military like all of our country is dealing with tightening their wallets. What may have been more common when the money spigot was flowing will now be uncommon since the spigot is being slowed down.

    The AFROTC program has always had a smaller budget, but that is because it is the smallest of the ROTC programs, and the smallest branch of the big three, thus, they have a smaller need in terms of recruitment.

    Sometimes the warning signs are there regarding the tightening of the budget, but we refuse or choose to ignore them. A couple of signs started just recently to appear....USNA is following the AFA suit and not going to request a waiver for the cadet number of 4400, instead they were going to reduce incoming class sizes. Navy has also announced that they will RIF 3000 enlisted members. This to me is a sign of the start of budget issues.

    This could also be the reason why you are seeing what you are seeing.

    Finally, I understand your frustration, but if you go through the threads many candidates received the "at this time we cannot..." letter. They would kill for that 100K. Many posters are still licking wounds.

    Additionally, as a wife who spent 20 yrs living as a dependent in the AF, trust me if this drives you insane, just wait trying to deal with everyday life and the hoops you jump through. The scholarship process is NOTHING compared to what lies ahead. The military is a bureaucracy and that means many times the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

    It is a part of that life, and when you walk away from it, one you will laugh about.
     
  5. DocDadGoat

    DocDadGoat Uncle of SA Candidate

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    Wait list @PIMA

    Pima, I knew you would jump in here somehow and that is good. Saying that other kids would kill for the $100,000 is disgusting, as my nephew has worked hard for this scholarship. He feels honored to get this, but at the same time I feel he has been grossly misled and deceived.

    This kid WANTS to serve his country. That has been his choice for many, many years and that is what is his first priority. It is a life-time choice for him, his chosen career and the Navy has always been the only branch for him.

    He has TURNED DOWN other scholarships quickly, so that they could go to students waiting. He knows how it feels to wait and have the need. He turned down everything not military related. He turned down a full ride to one university with no NROTC unit because he held the NROTC scholarship. He did so because he was misled.

    I am not blind...everyone is tightening their belt (well almost but I won;t go there) but what is stated in a scholarship offer and what is actually offered should be one and the same. There should be no deception as to what is and is not. Sounds like AF has a better grip on this.

    I appreciate your thoughts but I think an apology is due as my nephew and his entire family are very honored to have this scholarship. We do not see the smaller amount as small change. We just do not like being deceived.

    He worked hard for this, just as hard as others.
    And I am extremely aware of the frustrations of military life, govt rules...more than I can say here.
     
  6. LTLONGAGO

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    First, I kind of disagree with Pima. My husband just retired after thirty years in the Navy, and I did four years myself, but the past few months with my son applying to college and waiting for the NROTC wait lists was the most stressful time I've ever experienced in the military. (No, I never had to go into direct combat as others have, so, yes, I did have it pretty easy. And, husband was only on ships during combat, not on land.) Anyway, when it comes to taking care of our kids and college, the stress somehow seems heightened.

    I really don't think there was any intentional deception here. I think that NROTC Pensacola was trying to do the wait list and in-state v. out-of-state control a little differently this year from the past, and sometimes things just weren't communicated well. For example, our son didn't even apply to an in-state school at all, because when he applied for NROTC last July, the NROTC application just said that one of his top three choices had to be a "state school." Since it didn't specify "IN-state," and since he didn't want to go in-state, he put a public university in another state as his 3rd choice on the application. Apparently that little communication glitch was fixed in the online application after he applied. Because we were so naive at the time, it didn't even cross our minds that they meant in-state. He had a firm choice for a state school that was not in our state, so that is what he picked.

    I really would continue to have your nephew and his parents advocate his desire and the problem with what was communicated to him in December to the officers at the NROTC unit where he wants to enroll as well as to the NROTC Pensacola staff. I am sure that everyone would like to make him happy if they can. Being friendly is probably better than complaining loudly, but what do I know?
     
  7. Pima

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    DocDadgoat,

    Let me 1st off say, I was trying to take a position from not being in the game, but seeing every position.

    That is why I stated what I did. I have no bone in the fight. I am trying to view from every perspective, and that means those who got the TWE cringing over the issue, military seeing everyone in the next few yrs will take a punch to the gut because the DOD budget is going to be cut, and living the life understanding that the devil is in the details.

    If you follow my posts I STRESS that part about the devil constantly.

    I am serious about that, because you know what? In 8 yrs (4 for college 4 AD) your nephew is supposedly allowed to walk away, no harm, no foul. HOWEVER, I bet the minority have only realized that the payback only starts when they report to their 1st assignment and not the day they get commissioned. In other words if they commission in May, but report for duty in Oct, the clock starts in OCTOBER. If they go to UPT, the clock actually doesn't start until they graduate from UPT, and even at that point it is not 4 yr, it is more than twice that. UPT is a yr long. Take TA for your Masters and it is def. past 4 yrs. PCS overseas and back stateside and again that 4 yr deal is out the door! Everybody thinks about the perks, they just don't realize the price.

    That is why I really stress to everyone to read the dang fine print. Heck, on the AFROTC forums cadets are now freaking out because they didn't realize if they are not selected for summer field training the scholarship can be revoked. AFROTC only had @50% C200's selected. Want to talk fear and anger? There you go. These cadets are rising jrs and the scholarship that they thought they had for 4 yrs was just yanked. They never read the details in that paperwork. They took it as a given and signed away!

    As you may feel disgusted by my comment about people killing for 100K in scholarship money. That comment was not meant to offend or demean the success of your nephew. It was meant to say for some the anger you are lodging about deceit from the Navy is salt in a wound. If you feel an apology is owed, than I apologize that you felt I offended your nephew and your family. I never intentionally meant to say anything negative about him, and I am sorry you didn't realize my true intention regarding the post.

    From what I am reading that full ride did not have NROTC and he wanted to do ROTC. Are you stating he would have taken it if he knew now that he couldn't have the 180K scholarship?

    Additionally, being here coming up on 4 yrs, many if not all of the ROTC scholarship recipients receive also merit from the colleges they elect to matriculate to as a student. Our DS had for every college acceptance a merit from the school. Merits to matter, if you are short on the ROTC funds it kicks in.

    You are a great family member, obviously this child means the world to you, and more than anything I have to say he is blessed to have the loving, caring family he has.

    I am not trying to be antagonistic in any means. I am trying to just address this from an outsider view. Nothing more and nothing less.


    LTLONGAGO,

    I agree 1000% when it comes to our children it is heightened. We have spent close to 2 decades nurturing, guiding and protecting them. It would be insane to not get ticked. It would be like when they were newborns and they didn't say your child was such a cute baby. Mama Bear comes in full force!

    Finally, I would like to say this, and I am going to take it from Stealth who recently posted on the AFA threads: http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=19437

    ROTC at least at our DS's det has the big boy program (no offense to girls). Once you are 18, folks are locked out in every factor. It is their life, their battle, their success and their failure.
     
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  8. bjc

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    My DS was awarded a 4 year scholarship to an out of state very expensive private university but no where in the paperwork we received from NROTC was there a dollar amount mentioned. Where is the $180K value from?

    And in communications with Pensacola, it was always made clear to us that each unit has x number of in state spots as well as x number of out of state spots. DS was offered in state tuition rate at an out of state school as a merit scholarship, so Pensacola noted that on his record because the unit had no more slots for out of state students - only openings for in state students, in case that is where they decided to assign him.

    I have never felt like they were trying to hide anything ...

    Also, IMHO Pima always has good information, I agree a lot with what she says. And I don't think she was bashing anyone. Being the daughter of retired Navy and wife of retired AF, I have spent my entire life dealing with beauracratic (sp?) government BS. And it continues to this day. In fact, spent well over an hour yesterday on the phone with VA trying to find out when they planned to process a paper they acknowledged receiving back in early October 2010. And this is a simple thing - DS turned 18 years old in December and is still in high school so we have to confirm he is a full time student. That is just how the government works and, for the most part, they could care less what you think about it, really.

    For me, Pima, keep your posts coming...
     
  9. LTLONGAGO

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    The government is definitely bureaucratic - But we really enjoyed our 30 years - and I also grew up with a father who did the Navy for 30 years, so I guess that adds up to a total of 48 years in the Navy for me! The pros outweighed the cons for us. We have lived in wonderful places and made great friends everywhere. And, now we have a very nice retirement to rely on when others have no jobs at all.

    I have never really been annoyed by the bureaucracy - But, the NROTC wait list process was difficult this spring. My son went from the excitement of receiving an NROTC scholarship in Oct and being accepted to six NROTC colleges, to the realization that he did not have a place to use his NROTC scholarship because he was denied by his first choice reach school in Feb, a very competitive college which denied all but three NROTC recipients this year. Our inability to make college and financial plans with him for the future until this week was quite stressful. Some kids were at least placed at a college where they had been accepted, even if they wanted to get on a wait list to trade. He was not placed at all. I felt bad for him because he did everything right in applying early for NROTC last July and got good enough grades and SATS to even consider applying to such a school. We are very happy and relieved now, but it took a lot of patience to get to this point.

    On the other hand, all of the people we met through the NROTC process were friendly and terrific, and our experiences as officers in the Navy were truly positive as well.
     
  10. Pima

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    BJC,

    Thank you for your support. You and I have endured the bureaucracy as a military dependent. I do understand the frustration and I mean that from the bottom of my heart with no animosity.

    I also have lived the life and I am with bjc you think this is bad, just wait. For ex: DD got bit by a Copperhead snake 3 times in one incident. We called 911 and ambulance took her to the community hospital, base hospitals with ER services are now becoming rare. They charged us $910 for the ride. We had to fight it, we won!

    When Bullet raised his right hand medical coverage was a gimme, even as a retiree. He never read the fine print. 21 yrs later, not one of his dependents can get into a military doc., we all pay co-pays. DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

    I could go on and on, however I won't. Reason why I won't is because I flipping loved every second of that life and was thankful to be blessed in experiencing it.

    Life to me is always about taking the good and the bad.

    Again, I am not trying to say anything more than this is the fact: You have to decide what to do with what is thrown at you.

    The military is a family. You may love them, but it doesn't mean you always like or agree with them!

    FWIW I am glad DS did the AFROTC, because at least with them colleges that accept the scholarship have no impact. It is all about the cadet from a nationalistic rank regarding the awarding of scholarships.

    I have said it multiple times, when Bullet retired I was a chocolate mess (common military term). I cried not for any other reason that I didn't want to leave. I knew it was the best for our family, but as others have stated it was such a great life it hurt to go. I guess I am now re-living my life vicariously through our DS. Bought his mess dress a few weeks ago for the dining out, my heart dropped because when I saw him trying on the jacket, my mind raced through 20 yrs, 2x a yr of seeing Bullet. My heart filled at the same time because I knew there were going to be such great times in front of him.
     
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    From Navy.com - underline added by me.

     
  12. LTLONGAGO

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    Nothing anyone is saying above is untrue, for sure. Back to the initial topic, I do feel bad for the uncle and nephew who started this string, however, because I never saw published information about the details of in-state and out-of-state relative to each individual applicant and how the wait list would work either. Does anyone have a reference that they could provide the link to, so that uncle above doesn't get blindsided if they try to appeal to Pensacola? Information in recent emails or recent documents from Pensacola are not sufficient for someone who got on a wait list in Dec.

    Other topic - My son just turned 18 this week. So, until now I have felt very justified in being his mom and worrying for and about him - But, also, the stress around the NROTC scholarship waitlist was beginning to sginificantly affect our pocketbooks this week when we paid deposits at three colleges, paid airline flights and hotels for three accepted student days in March and April, and weren't sure if we should accept more colleges to keep our options open and whether we were going to be paying $58K, $25K, $10K, or nothing per year for college. We ended at the $10K plus transportation costs, which is thrilling. As much as it would have been nice for him to have solved his NROTC wait list problem on his own, he just didn't have the time during the school day nor the political savvy to push the issue through.

    By the way, I don't think the $180K number is written in stone anywhere, but I have seen it used in NROTC marketing. Most likely it says (or means) a scholarship valued UP TO $180K. $180K is approximately the total value of four years of private school or expensive out-of-state public school tuition, plus books and the monthly spending money that the midshipmen receive.
     
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    I was just about to post this. It is up to $180,000. Essentially, after all the training, summer cruises, books, tuition, and staff assistance the scholarship is worth far more than $180,000 (even if you received instate tuition).
     
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    OOPS - I was guessing at the answer to the $180K while you were finding it!
     
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    OK am I missing something here.

    The OP said that the school his nephew received the scholarship to was his original #1 choice. I would think the Navy did a good job of offering the scholarship to that #1 choice school.

    Others beat me to the point that it states "Up to $180,000.00" Not sure where they were deceived by that at all.

    If any apologies are due it is to Pima, her comment that "others would kill for that $100,000.00 was not a personal attack on anyone, and definatly far from disgusting. The fact is that there are so many applicants that were just as qualified and had the same desire to serve that did not receive any scholarship at all. Many are still licking their wounds and trying to scramble to option B or C. There were a lot of emotions here when the rejections came out, these emotions still linger, try and understand how those kids feel when they hear someone complain that it didn't work out exactly like they had hoped, No one is saying that your nephew is ungrateful for what he received, far from it, but remember, he is not the only applicant that worked hard for years to acheive his goal, the only difference between them is that he got his.

    I am curious about one thing, if his main goal was NROTC, why the comment about turning down a full ride scholarship to a school with no NROTC. I'm not sure what the point was.

    I guess my son was an Odd Duck in the whole process this year. He was told by several ROTC units both Navy and Army to list schools that you are willing to attend on your application because you have no control over which schools may be offered. Some may call him nuts but he took that advice and researched and selected schools he would be happy to attend and put them on the list. When he received his scholarship he just signed it, sent it in and signed up for school.

    One thing that Pima trys to pound into the head of every applicant is something I agree with very much.

    While this new shiny scholarship may seem to be the goal they were reaching for, all it really is, is an opportunity to achieve that goal. The hard work is yet to come, along with all the speed bumps that come with it. Pima and I both have sons in their 3rd year, her's in AFROTC and mine in AROTC, together we could fill a book with all the hurdles our son's have had to jump and stressful situations they have had to overcome. The concerns and frustration with how your nephews scholarship was handled will seem trivial in a couple years. I swear, if half the kids could hear how ROTC works and the demands put on you, they would second guess their decision, at least for a few minutes. ROTC is hard enough, trying to be at the top of the class, well that's playing at a whole different level.

    The Navy was not alone in mid year changes to the scholarship game, the Army process was completely different after the first board in Oct. Budget problems have a way of making that happen. I feel sorry for the applicants the next few years, they will need to change their whole outlook on the process and be much more willing to take what they can get.

    I wish you nephew all the luck, I have no doubt he is grateful and eager to serve, just like all the fine kids represented on this board.
     
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    DocDadGoat,

    I'm sorry but I re-read one of your posts.

    I have to take issue with the comment you made that "This kid WANTS to serve".

    Every kid on this board that has worked for years to put themselves in a position to go to college and participate in ROTC, and commission has that desire to serve.

    I have read countless posts by those who did not receive a scholarship that they are in no way giving up on their dream, they took their dissapointment with dignity and honor and have not slowed in their pursuit of their dream. I am sure your nephew will do the same. As for you, before you start asking for apologies you might want to send one out to the kids of this board.

    I did not mean to be personal and I apologize in advance for that. Scholarships have become the norm over the past years and everybody forgets that they used to be nearly non existint. This may soon be the case again, those who received scholarships this year are very fortunate, now they will need to go earn the opportunity they have all been given, my son included.
     
  17. Pima

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    For every scholarship recipient take that to heart. Come this fall as every ROTC instructor, cadet and parent has stated that scholarship will mean nothing when they rack and stack you.

    It is the old joke you know what they call a cadet on scholarship compared to a cadet that isn't? CADET!

    You will open a new chapter, just like you did when you went from middle school to high school. It is all now going to be based on you at college and in ROTC. If a non-scholarship cadet outshines you he outshines you, no points for scholarship will be awarded.

    As Jcleppe stated this is a new era we are walking in regarding DoD and the budget constraints. It would be wise to repeat the energy you had in hs with intentions of scholarships and great colleges, but now do it in college and instead of scholarships or colleges as your goal it is going to be AD positions.

    Let's be honest about college; come Friday afternoon your life is your life until Monday, and there is always winter and summer breaks, or next fall to jig that perfect schedule. Don't like your major, you can change it at your will, with limitations. That is not true for the 4 yrs AD you will serve. You can't say I don't want that job, or I don't want to be stationed there. What do you mean I can't go on leave aka vacation is not a question you will pose to your commanders!

    This is what I think some of us are trying politely to explain when we say it is a bigger picture.

    Not one of you will serve 20 yrs without having a moment of frustration or anger to the military. It is human. However, all of you will remember when that bout occurs 3 key words to bring you back to acceptance. Service before Self.

    Best wishes, hopes and prayers for every ROTC cadet Class of 2015.

    Thank you, and your family for stepping up and putting this great country first.

    God Bless America, and God Bless You.
     
  18. d.mcknight

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    What I'm about to say has been touched on, but something is really bothering me here. This isn't directed at any one person, so don't get all fired up on me about bashing anyone.

    If someone's true desire is to serve, whether or not they get a scholarship shouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Yes, having college paid for is always good. I understand better than many how hard it can be to pay for college. My mom is unemployed and going to school, my dad makes barely enough to support me and my brother, and my only way to turn is my grandparents' who retired almost 40 years ago on fixed income. So yes, receiving the scholarship was nice, but even if I didn't I would be in college in the fall doing NROTC. It doesn't matter if I have to spend hours applying for every possible scholarship, looking for loans or working my way through college, the goal is to commission and that's what will happen.

    There is always some way to pay for college if you truly want it. You just have to work hard to do it. And if you aren't willing to work hard to follow your dreams, maybe you need to rethink them.
     
  19. Pima

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    d you are correct if there is the will there will be a way. It may include going to family members, it may include taking loans. Just remember you will not be the first or the last that has had to make hard decisions and decide because of financial reasons.

    Yrs ago I was admitted to Duke, I didn't go because anyway I played it I would not have had enough money. I went to another private school, on scholarships, grants, loans and work study. I walked away with a very good education, got a great job where I was successful at, and a best friend who I never would have met had I gone to Duke.

    I also realize that I probably never would have married Bullet because he went to school in MD, and NC is not close in distance. That may have been why fate worked the way it did for me. Things have a way of working out the way they do because that is the real path you should be on, not the one you try to force.

    The one thing I will also continue to stress over and over again is if you take that scholarship understand it is not a 4 yr guarantee for sure without a doubt. It is as close as you can get, but always have plan B if you lose it. It is very hard emotionally to lose a scholarship, but even harder if you must leave the college and your friends because you can't afford it without the scholarship. I have seen through our DS that this has occurred with friends of his. Not only that, but if it happens as a rising jr., it can academically set you back since many college request you earn a specific number of credits at the their school, thus you may not be able to enter at the same yr group.
     
  20. cjs

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    I appreciate your being frustrated for your nephew for not having had the total story when it came to his scholarship.
    But, your nephew also played the system by making deposits at 3 of his 5 schools and paying housing fees at 2 schools. There may be a wait list for either admissions or housing at both of these schools and those kids who are on either are out in the cold for the moment so I guess they could just as upset at your nephew.
    As far as termination of housing contracts, most schools seem to have a clause of terminating your housing contract if you do not indeed attend the school. The deposit usually isn't refundable, but again, your nephew's family knew this when they placed a housing deposit at both schools. They knew that they would ultimately have to walk away from one and it would cost money and it was their choice to place both deposits and suffer the financial consequences.


    Congratulations on the scholarship. How wonderful that you have a hardworking nephew who wants to serve our country.
     

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