OCD DQ?

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  1. Vorter

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    I'm in my sophomore year of high school and I have OCD. I saw a doctor and a councilor a year ago and just saw the same councilor and a different doctor this month. He gave me a prozac prescription but I have yet to go to the pharmacy.

    Did visiting those doctors put me at risk of DQ?
    What about the prescription, and if so, could I simply not buy and take the medication to prevent that?
     
  2. Pima

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    Anyway you play it you must admit you have been diagnosed with OCD. You are assuming the meds would be the mitigating factor/issue regarding a DQ and the OCD isn't a factor from a med records position.

    Fill the prescription IMPO because by doing so you will do better in school,

    Best wishes, hopes and thoughts,
     
  3. Vorter

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    Dont they look at your medical records and know that way?
    Does that mean i still have to tell them?

    And whats the chance of getting a waiver for it?


    The meds wont really help me because I can mostly ignore it at school and i have a 4.0
     
  4. Dad

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    You WILL HAVE TO report it. Getting a waiver depends on the branch. Also, be aware that DoDMERB will only qualify you or not. They do not determine waivers. They also look at each case individually as they determine whether or not to certify that you are physically fit for duty. Just because person A was deemed qualified does not mean that person B will also be qualified. Furthermore, if persons C and D are DQ'd and USAFA offers a waiver to person C, that does not mean that NROTC will offer a waiver to person D.

    Best wishes. :thumb:
     
  5. Pima

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    Yes, they look at your medical records. Is it on your medical records you have OCD, or is it on the records of a specialist?
    Yes, you must tell them on the form.
    There is a questionnaire you answer.

    0 % if you don't apply.

    Nobody here is a DoDMERB doc or sits on the waiver board for any branch. You have to roll the dice. Nobody in their right mind would chance you at all. That is hard to read, but it goes back to 0% chance if you don't apply. The chances are tied to you applying.

    Your 4.0 cgpa doesn't matter if medically you are DQd.
     
  6. Vorter

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    Okay thanks for all the info so far.

    Two questions though. Is it indeed possible to get a waiver for it? And does anybody know if beginning treatment or taking meds may reduce the chance of a waiver, if so?
     
  7. Pima

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    Waivers are case by case based on the candidates medical records, it is not a flat decision, hence nobody can tell you if it is possible for you personally. I am sure there are anecdotal stories of yes and no, but the reason you have both answers is due to the fact that it is case by case.

    The thing is whether you fill that script or not really doesn't matter because one of the questions you will be asked is:
    Have you ever been prescribed medicine for any condition? If so, what?

    Your answer must YES. Prozac.

    Not taking it is your choice, but even if you don't fill it, on your medical records it will show what the doc prescribed, when, how much and for what. On the form you will admit it. The questionnaire does not ask if you took the prescription, they will assume you followed your docs medical orders.

    Be honest, move forward with your plans. I.E. make sure you have leadership and athletics in your resume, take the most rigorous curriculum you can, study for your PSAT/SAT/ACT.

    It is hard and I know you want answers, but the answer is you will be required to acknowledge your OCD diagnosis and Prozac. It probably will set off the DQ alarm, and either remedial/waiver or both. The importance is the branch waives, and if you are a competitive candidate, and if it can be waived your chances are higher, than if you are not a competitive candidate.

    Why risk the chance on a candidate that needs a waiver with no ECs, eh PAR and mediocre CFA over a candidate that also needs a waiver, was Team Captain, Eagle Scout, top 1% of their class, NMF candidate, and maxed the CFA?

    This is out of your control right now, what is in your control your ability to be the best candidate regarding the Whole Candidate Scoring system.

    Remember DoDMERB DQ's, branches waive. As Dad illustrated AF may waive and Navy won't.
     
  8. Vorter

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    Okay. The records show that I was prescribed but refused and never took it.

    I will of course still do my best to get in and be competitive.
     
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    Pay particular attention to this part of Pima's response. The stronger your record the better your chance of a waiver if you need one.
     
  10. Pima

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    Vorter,

    You are making an incorrect assumption regarding DQ. Again, the question asked for the DoDMERB exam is:
    Have you ever been prescribed?
    NOT, have you not filled the prescription.

    You are making assumptions that not filling the prescription you can:
    A. Prove it without a doubt...i.e. you can fill it without using health insurance, thus never on records.
    B. Will impact the waiver process.

    Just a Mom, but I would fill it because I see no reason why not to fill it.
     
  11. Vorter

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    The doctor said he will put on the record that I never took it and returned the prescription.

    I am hoping by not taking meds (which I don't really need) may make my OCD seem less significant and improve my chances of a waiver.
     
  12. Pima

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    Vorter,

    Just a question, have you thought of getting a 2nd opinion?

    Your doc says you need the meds, you say you don't. Wouldn't it be to your advantage to get a 2nd to see if you are correct or the doc is correct?

    Your med records will be required, your current doc can say you returned the script, or they can say you refused to fill it. Two different things. The only thing that is the same you were diagnosed and prescribed meds for OCD.
     
  13. Vorter

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    Sorry it's been a bit, i've been busy.
    I may consider restarting professional help and just take my chances with the waiver. It seemed like the doc just gave the prescription on a whim, but I think I could use it, I'm just not desperate for it at all.

    I'm talking with my HS counselor to consider my options but I may end up doing therapy and countering my possibly lower chances on the waiver with being more competitive (grades/SAT/etc.)
     
  14. flieger83

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    Vorter,

    I'm going to take an entirely different tack here...

    TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST!!

    If you truly have OCD, a diagnosable issue, then take care of it; regardless of what it takes. Make sure YOU are okay!!

    If it poses an issue for your goal of the academy, "OH WELL" then that's how it's meant to be. But the first and most important thing must be your health!!!

    If it's meant to be, then it will be and if it's not, then there's another plan for you. But do NOT put your health at risk for this goal. It is NOT worth it.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  15. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    Well said.
    For more information about medical accession standards, click here. Page 48 has the OCD DQ info.
     
  16. Vorter

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    It just says it's an automatic DQ.

    Anyway I will stil get treatment, just one way is at home and another is with professionals, but I will most likely get professional help.
     

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