Opposite of NAPS Profile?

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  1. taymcg12

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    Since USNA is my dream school, I would have no problem attending NAPS for a year. Only thing is is that I have been told multiple times that I have no chance at NAPS because I am "too smart". They tell me that my SAT scores (540 math [which I thought was low] and 710 reading) as well as my GPA and class rank (about a 4.0 weighted and about 34th in the class of 230) are too high to really be considered for NAPS. I have taken a ton of college classes and will have around 40 college credits when I graduate (I go to an engineering academy for high school students that gets dual enrollment credits from my local community college for morning classes) I also just had pretty mediocre fitness test scores. I do have a ton or EC's and leadership positions as well as a good number of sports (although not good enough to be recruited). I had a great interview with my BGO and he told me that I would receive a fantastic recommendation.

    From what I understand, a person in the opposite position as me, someone with great CFA scores and good leadership but with low SAT's and GPA's will be the ones considered for NAPS. My SAT's and GPA's worked well enough to get a nomination, but I feel that they are too low to truly be a competitive applicant for USNA straight off. Is there any chance I am considered for NAPS?
     
  2. time2

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    I don't speculate on the 'what are my chances' threads since frankly, none of us can accurately answer that. However, my first question would be who are these people telling you that you have no chance at NAPS and if they aren't part of USNA admissions, I wouldn't worry so much about guesses/hunches from those who probably have no real insight on this subject.

    Let's focus instead on what is factual. One category of those offered NAPS lack the 'scholastic' Q, but have the other 2Q's of CFA & DODMERB. Remember that the scholastic Q includes much more then GPA/class rank and test scores. Included also are teacher/BGO recommendations, sports, ECA's.....etc.

    Each MOC might have their own criteria of who gets a NOM, separate from USNA's 3Q's, so you can't really mix those together. Someone, for example, may look wonderful on paper, but bomb the MOC interview by being aloof, egotistical or just come across terribly in a live interview. Those people are unlikely to get a NOM no matter how strong they appear on paper.
     
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    You are absolutely right. It is just fairly easy to specualte throughout this process as there is a lot that I can't and will not know. Thank you for the well thought out response!
     
  4. Saints

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    I got a NAPS appointment with 36 college credits 3.8 GPA, 600 math 600 reading . Two time wrestling state qualifier and team leader , BJJ North American Grappling Texas champion , outstanding CFA and numerous leadership positions . If the academy sees you are fit then you will be fit .
     
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  5. Islandmom4

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    My DD is a NAPSter with a 630 math and 710 English SAT, 7 AP's. NAPS is a golden ticket; the USNA thinks you are worth investing an extra year of time and money in.
     
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    If you have that "it" factor that NAPS or other PS is looking for, and they are willing to invest one year in YOU before you go to USNA, you MIGHT get offered a prep school slot. MIGHT.

    If you do get the offer, it is a golden ticket, a priceless opportunity.
     
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    I agree with both of you on the "golden ticket" aspect. I would give just about anything to get into either the academy or NAPS. When I visited Annapolis, the admissions counselor's exact words were "Just know if you for some reason got an offer to NAPS, you have won. That is your ticket in". That is why I am hoping that the way my BGO interview went could have some effect because he stated that he saw a lot of leadership potential in me. I'm not exactly sure how far the BGO's opinion would go as far as NAPS seeing potential for leadership, but I have to think that it would have a significant role in the NAPS selection.
     
  8. BostonUSNA2020

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    so if an applicant is extremely qualified in their CFA and clearly has the leadership the naval academy wants, what is the GPA and SAT range they are looking for in brining people into NAPS?? The Naval Academy is my dream and I'd take a NAPS appointment just as I would the Naval Academy because as you all said before it is DEFINITELY a golden ticket
     
  9. Sydney C.

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    I think it may be beneficial to remember what we all know and may have forgotten during this difficult and somewhat stressful waiting period that many are going through....there are not two sets of criteria for USNA and NAPS.

    CFA scores and leadership points along with test scores, GPA's, Class Rank ....and the BGO eval are evaluated by USNA admissions, not NAPS admissions, which doesn't exist. It's not as though there is a separate NAPS review board that looks at all of this though a different lense or a different set of criteria e.g. "ranges that they look for to bring people into NAPS".

    Ultimately, since no one can apply to NAPS, it's the academy that sees a candidate they feel may not be ready for prime time but with just a bit of academic seasoning let's say, will be ready to join the brigade.

    The WPM is what it is and candidates will be selected for either USNA or NAPS based on that set alone.
     
  10. NavyHoops

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    Boston, there is no cut and dry profile of what will get someone in to NAPS or USNA. Just like when folks ask to post stats to compare themselves it really doesn't help. No two applicants are alike. When we see just straight GPAs, APs, ACT/SAT scores it only builds part of the picture for a candidate. Geography, URM, maybe a kid works 40 hours a week to care for their family, maybe a kid goes to rural/inner city school and took every hard class offered and only made it through Pre-Calc, maybe they score well in class rank and GPA but their math SAT just isn't there, maybe they are from a family of immigrants. These are just a handful of things and factors that USNA looks at to build the whole picture of a candidate. Maybe a candidate has an amazing profile and their math teacher rec says they didn't work hard or their BGO just gave them an average eval. None of us know these factors on each applicant and how it helps to build the entire picture. All you can do is submit your best package, prepare your back up plans and enjoy your senior year. I know everyone wants a cut and dry answer, but there isn't one as so many factors are looked at by admissions.
     
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  11. Physicsguru

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    NavyHoops, please cut and save your answer! I get the "What are my chances" question all the time, and I usually answer "what do you bring to the table."
     

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