Our District Appears in the Appt Thread

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  1. NavySWO91

    NavySWO91 New Member

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    So... game over? or just another nail in the coffin? Likelihood that another appt comes from the district? DD's nomination letter did not specify any ranking or give an indication to primary or alternate designation. She is (OK... "we" are) "eager" to know her fate.
     
  2. kinnem

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    Depends.
    1. Just because there was an appointment from your district doesn't preclude your DD's appointment. The appointment from your district isn't necessarily slated to your MOC.
    2. If the appointment was slated to your MOC there is always the chance of appointment from the waiting list.
    It's not a nail in a coffin... it's just (perhaps) one less opportunity for an appointment. That being said, it's always wise to be working plan B.
     
  3. Craig

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    Game Over

    The game is not over until you receive notice or June 27th passes and your DD isn't standing in formation. My DD received two nominations in November. One from our Congressman and one from our Senator. She did not have an LOA and she is not a recruited athlete. We had heard others on the Senator's list had LOA's and others on the Congressman's list had LOA's which caused concern. DD had a similar reaction when someone post an appointment from our district. I told her to be patience, that her name would go into the national pool. Her record of achievement was competitive and she had a good chance. Her backup plan was in place. In early December, while traveling for work, DD call crying. I thought she had been in a wreck. She had been given an appointment. We are not sure how she was slotted and we really didn't care. A dance card is a dance card. My point is none of us know how they are working filling the slots behind the curtains. We can make reasonable assumptions, but until the academy has its final say it is all just talk. If your DD has two nominations, she has a good shot in national pool. Hang in there, February and March are going to be busy mailing months. Until she gets a TWE there is hope!
     
  4. Whistle Pig

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    Nothing much to add or subtract what has been said, beyond this statement, which I believe risks misleading some. It seems to suggest that having multiple nominations, obviously none of which is a principal, lends a "good" or better shot than anyone with one, once he/she is relegated to the national pool. I don't believe that is so.

    And with no desire to throw cold water, I'm not sure I'd ever say one has a "good" shot from the national pool. I guess it depends upon how one defines "good." I'd be inclined to simply say "...she has a shot in the national pool." I view this forum as seeking to inform and educate, first and foremost. Cheerleading is good, but doesn't count much in the game's scoring.
     
  5. Vista123

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    my son got an LOA and a nomination. He was undecided on wether or not to interview for a second nomination as only one was needed. He was told to go ahead and interview so that USNA can shuffle his nominations around later when all applications are in. I am not sure if you ever really find out which MOC your nomination was counted against.

    So in other words, there CAN be two from one district.
     
  6. Whistle Pig

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    Another nomination would have made no diff in your son's offer of appointment, LOA or otherwise, unless one is a principal and was needed. Would not have enhanced his chances at all. It MAY have made a diff for someone else. All that does is provide more flexibility for USNA in determining the mix of the 1,200 slots. Has nothing to do with your son's slot though.
     
  7. goaltoserve

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    Numbers game

    If there are 535 MOCs and 1200 appointments it becomes clear that there is a good chance that there will be multiple appointments from a number of districts.
    Keep hoping until you get a definite yes or no!
     
  8. Whistle Pig

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    Said another way, about 550 appointments annually that are NOT slotted to MOCs.

    Think of it in 4 year blocks, over which each MoC may have 5 appointees credited to his allotment. That means of the roughly 4900 appointments made over that 4 year period, MoCs are credited with about 2700 (5 x 535) (more in reality, due to attrition) of them, leaving 2200 appointments NOT credited to those MoCs over the 4 year block. And that means about 550 appointments/year from "other" sources. Maybe a booster for those in need of a boost to drooping spirits and trying to scoop their MoC's decisions?

    Have I miscalculated?
     
  9. NavySWO91

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    Thanks all, for your reassurances. She has an excellent alternate plan in effect (NROTC) and she is very excited about that too since it also gets her to the goal of being a Naval Officer. A USNA appt would just be a great capper to all the hard work she has put in to achieving this goal she set for herself. We will keep the faith.
     
  10. Vista123

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    I am just a parent of a 2017 like you, (in other words my opinion is worth next to nothing:rolleyes:) but the way I figure it-some may do better in the national pool than in their district.

    For example-my son was told of an applicant a few years back with a 34 ACT plus a bunch of other stellar stats who did not get in right away from our district and instead they took a recruited athlete from our district. The applicant with the stellar stats got in from the national pool though.
     
  11. Whistle Pig

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    Well, I'd guess not. Why?

    This may well be an example where the Academy determined to take the jock via the MOC nom, knowing full well that unlike the other candidate, the jock could not be admitted from the national pool.

    So it wasn't that the 34 ACT etc. candidate had a "better" shot from the national pool than he did in his MOC's pool. No doubt USNA admissions knew that he could and would be appointable from that pool.

    Rather, it was likely done that way because the jock HAD THE BETTER CHANCE in his MOC pool where test results, WP scores, etc. may or may have no impact on a nomination. And conversely that jock may likely have had no chance in the national pool. And USNA wanted and got them both. And this is the reason for encouraging already nominated individuals to pursue additional noms.
     
  12. Indianamom

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    I'm another one of those parents that saw our district in the appt. thread. I saw it not once, but twice! It's times like this when you almost wish you didn't know that information. My heart just sank. We're still not giving up yet as there is still the NWL. My son has a strong application which is complete with a nomination. He went on a CVW back in September so there must have been something in his application that stood out. We're just trying to think positive. My DS has his backup plans B & C in place if it doesn't work out and I know that whatever he ends up doing, he will do well.

    As mentioned, until someone says no, we're still in the running.

    Good luck to everyone!
     
  13. riveranduin

    riveranduin row well and live

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    Seeing your district in the appointment thread can be hard, but there is certainly still a chance. When I was in for interviews for nominations at my both my Senator's and Representative's offices, I was told that regularly they will have 5 to 7 of the kids from each slate receive an appointment, and I come from an area that is competitive enough they won't double-nominate by MOC, though I do know some also have Presidential noms. Just something to keep in mind.
     
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    Definitely will keep that in mind. I really hope that can be the case. I appreciate the information. Thank you!
     
  15. GoBlue1984

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    The waiting is a killer, especially as a parent, isn't it?
     
  16. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    I'm one of three from my district in 2016. Totally possible.
     
  17. givethemwings

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    My DS is one of two from our district for 2017 with appointments already! It's possible! Keep the faith.
     
  18. USNA2016Dad

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    Yes, But It Gets Worse

    Yes, waiting for the appointment was an experience. Maybe like extremely slow labor? Please, help me out here moms who know. But I do know as a dad, the wait from the BFE to I-Day was worse. My son was a wrestler. He received his appointment in late January, the heart of wrestling season. Every tournament we went to there were wrestlers who got injured. My son was injured several times but not severe enough to DQ his medical status. After his last high school match I had a sense of relief I cannot begin to describe. I-Day was relief to me. PPW was pure joy and celebration. Good luck to you and all others. Cheers.
     
  19. kinnem

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    Being a dad, I would have gone with "like waiting to pass a kidney stone". :biggrin:
     

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