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Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by ahaven7, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. ahaven7

    ahaven7 Member

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    Hi, I'm currently a high school junior in Virginia Beach, VA. Which is a very competitive area in terms of nominations and appointments.
    The problem I have is that I am nearing the point where I start my application and nomination process, but my father who is AD Navy has received orders for Sasebo, Japan. Where he will be heading over soon while I stay and finish the school year and head over there for my senior year around mid-June. He claims his residency in the 16th Congressional District of Ohio which is very much a rural area, and what I would assume is a lot less competitive in terms of receiving a congressional nomination versus here in VB which is right down the street from one of the largest Naval Bases in the world.
    I guess I'm confused on who I need to apply for a nomination from, I want to apply to where I have the best odds of receiving a nomination that can grant me, if the Academy finds me qualified, an appointment. Do I claim residency where he does? Or once I'm in Japan with him, then will I be able to claim the same residency?
    Also will I need to wait until I move to start the basic application process? Since my address and high school will be different than if I were to start today? Any help on my application process and timeline would be greatly appreciated, as well as if I should contact my Congressman of whom id be seeking appointment (16th District of OH), or anyone else I should contact in regards my situation.
    Thanks.
    -Austin
     
  2. 2018midmom

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    You can apply to the MOC for your dad's claimed residency (both senators) as well as a VP nom. Since your Dad is AD you also qualify for a Presidential nom. The application for the Pres. is on the USNA website.

    Don't wait to start the app. Nearly everything is online. I would contact the MOCs explain the situation and request the Nom packet be mailed while you are still stateside and hopefully you can get your recommendations, transcripts, etc in order before you go.

    Good luck!
     
  3. 1964BGO

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    By all means start using any spare time you have to start your application process to USNA as well as your nominating sources. Too many prospective candidates wait until they actually start their senior year (or even later) which handicaps them. Being from northeast Ohio I can assure you that OH-16 will be nowhere near as competitive as the NORVA or VAB area, but it is not as easy as falling off a log, either. Your district reaches from northern Akron through Cleveland burbs and several very quality public and private schools. You should start planning to study for and taking the SAT's and ACT's now. Have you applied for NASS? Go to www.usna.edu/Admissions if you have not done so already - and get familiar with the admissions process. You also might want to check Amazon or the USNA Visitors' Store for the current edition of A Candidate's Guide to the United States Naval Academy; it will provide you with a very complete insight into the admissions process from several aspects: candidate, Member of Congress, Admissions/Candidate Guidance staffer, professors, midshipmen, grads, etc. It will help you to understand the process and know what to expect. Also, start checking the courses you've taken against the list of courses that are recommended so you know what you need to have in your senior year. If you know where you will be attending for your senior year you might contact the guidance counselor there to get that ball rolling; in a couple of weeks the counselor staff will be busy closing out this academic year.

    There is a lot for you to get your teeth into to be in the forefront of the next cycle so take advantage of this time and best wishes to you.
     
  4. Spud

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    Mod, don't you mean "The Naval Academy Candidate Book" by Sue Ross? It is about $20 for a soft back at the US Naval Academy Store at: http://navyonline.com/

    Amazon has a hard copy for $74 which is ridiculous. They normally carry the softback version but it is not presently on the site. Absolutely fabulous book in any case.
     
  5. ahaven7

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    Thank you! This very much helps, yes I did apply to the USNASS, so I am assuming all I can do at this point in regards to the application process is start to get all the needed requirements together and continue to study and prep for my SAT/ACT as well as continued involvement and exercised leadership roles within extra-curricular. As well as starting the nomination process.

    I have been trying to figure out who and how to contact my BGO, but cant seem to find anything. Am I supposed to wait until I am notified as an official candidate before I am able to start my contact with them? Also when will I be notified of official candidate status? I know the admissions page says generally around June or July, but that seems weird since you can start your application as soon as April of your Junior year. I would assume they mean your Preliminary Application? Unless you applied for Summer Seminar in which case you could start sooner? Thank you for all your help and support!
     
  6. SpadGuy

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    I know one DODDS in Germany grad who went to VMI and two graduates of American International Schools (the schools are listed at http://www.state.gov/m/a/os/c1684.htm) who went to USMA and USAFA. I think one use the parents' home state and another one through DOD.
    The admission offices are the expert.
     
  7. 1964BGO

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    Your BGO will vary based upon the school you attend, but your Area Coordinator will be CDR Hartline from the Cleveland Area ( once you know what school you are attending he will be able to tell you who will be your BGO, otherwise you will be contacted when you become an Official Candidate.) You can get his contact information at the usna.edu/Admissions site. Starting your application does not trigger Official Candidate status. The OC status may occur if you are selected for NASS or as soon as you start submitting qualifying SAT/ACT scores. Once you are deemed an Official Candidate you will be assigned an access number to your candidate file and you can start submitting the parts of your candidate packet. One thing you should be certain to do is discuss your applying to USNA and any other schools with your current guidance counselor as provisions will have to be made for transcripts, teacher letters of recommendation (your junior year math and grammar teachers), and other school records. If you have other questions you can contact me here by pm. Best wishes to you. BTW, Spud probably is correct on the handbook's title and author.
     
  8. 1964BGO

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    Checking in with some more information for you. CDR Hartline's email is <Thomas.w.hartline@nasa.gov>, as the Area Coordinator for Northeast Ohio he assigns BGOs to the schools, so he will have some of the information you are seeking. The MOC's for the area of your interest would be U.S. Senators are Sherrod Brown and Robert Portman; your Congressman will be Congressman Renacci (check the spelling of his last name). You should apply for a Presidential nom, and the Vice Presidential nom, as well as any other nom for which you qualify. The big advantage to the Presidential nom is that since it is fully competitive the Admissions office can start acting on it several weeks earlier than the congressional noms. Best wishes to you and keep in touch.
     
  9. ahaven7

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    Thank you, will contact him an start getting with my guidance counselor. Basically I threw a lot of my eggs into one basket my freshman and sophomore year and am currently the CO for my NJROTC unit, so I have a lot of community service and interaction within the school and community, but I know I need more than just JROTC. So I started Cross country and track this year and plan on doing it next year as well but I know they look at overloading your stuff because you realize you need more to be competitive, I was thinking about trying to get involved with the school news, yearbook, newspaper, ECO club (community service based), and crime solvers but I don't know if the time and effort id put towards it would pay off as much as I hope.
    My GPA is also lower than what I need it to be (slacking off freshman and sophomore year and only putting effort to JROTC) so it's a lower 3.0 right now, but my semester grades I had majority A-/B+ to B range realizing how important it is and that if I want USNA its gonna take a lot of work. But with that GPA im in the top 20% of my class still. My projected GPA if i continue with these grades would be mid-3. I'm taking AP Physics, AP Eng, and AP US history this year and took AP human last year. I plan on taking the ACT in April and am really focusing on acing it and have that hopefully pick up some of my deficit I lacked in EC or GPA. Any suggestions would really help, thank you for all your help so far.


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  10. NavyHoops

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    Standard tests will be very important. Practice them as much as possible. Take the ACT and SAT if possible, see if you do better on one than the other. Be involved in things that interest you, not just to improve your resume. Yes its great to work towards things, but admissions can see through resume builders thrown on to help out. Quality not quantity. Leadership is key in all these things, not just be a member.
     
  11. SpadGuy

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    Austin, keep yourself busy.

    there are overseas JROTC units
    http://www.njrotc.navy.mil/host_schools.asp#ArmedForcesPacific
    KING HIGH SCHOOL
    PSC 476 BOX 9
    FPO (Sasebo, Japan), AP 96322-0009


    https://www.mcjrotc.usmc.mil/Pages/default.aspx
    Kubasaki High School Camp Foster Bldg 1437 Kitanakagusuku Son Adaniya Okinawa Japan 901-2316 http://www.dodea.edu/Pacific/Okinawa/CampFoster/KubasakiHS/

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/holmcenter/AFJROTC/AFJROTCunits.asp
    JA-931 Edgren High School Misawa AB
    JA-932 Kadena High School Kadena AB

    http://www.usarmyjrotc.com/jrotc-program/search-jrotc-schools (should be on spreadsheet)

    And Boy Scout units
    Far East Council, BSA
    www.fareastcouncil.org/
    http://www.fareastcouncil.org/Districts/Asia-east-district

    I was in a troop in Europe years ago
    Transatlantic Council
    www.tac-bsa.org/

    Girl Scout for your sister if any http://www.girlscouts.org/who_we_are/overseas/

    IIRC there was a CAP unit in Europe. Maybe UK. might be defunct by now

    http://www.dodea.edu/newsroom/20060216.cfm
    The largest source of money for DoDEA graduates in the United States was state or institution scholarships (40%), while the largest source for graduates in Europe was Military Academies (33%), and the largest source for those in the Pacific was ROTC Scholarships


     
  12. 1964BGO

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    Have you had chemistry with lab yet? It is important that you get that because it is considered the grim reaper of plebes. If you have yet to take it, try to get it as AP if possible. Also it would help to have had algebra II, geometry, and trigonometry; your first two years at NAVY will be heavy laden with math and science courses.
     
  13. ahaven7

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    Yes I've taken all those courses, I could take AP Chem next year as a senior? My classes for next year would be AP Government AP Eng 12 AP Calculus BC AP Physics C as well as ROTC and Intro to Engineering, so I still have two other potential spots I could use for AP Chem if you think that would be good to take next year. Would there be another class you would suggest I could take that may help? Thank you again


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  14. SpadGuy

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    Most schools won't let students take two major science classes in the same year. Chemistry and Biology or Physics and Biology might be ok, but Physics and Chemistry... Too much homework.
     
  15. falconchic88

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    It depends on the school. My DD took AP Chem, Honors Physics, and Anatomy and Physiology all last year. Def. put AP Chem on your schedule if possible. When DD met with USNA Dean of Admissions in August, he asked each applicant if they had taken AP Chem and what their AP test score was. He even told one of the applicants in the group to change her senior schedule, (even though school had already started) to drop AP Bio and add AP Chem instead. From that interaction, I gleaned it was pretty important to admissions.
     
  16. SpadGuy

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    What about Ap Environmental Science if DD already done Ap Biology and AP Chemistry and Ap Physics?

     

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