Pay grade after graduation

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  1. greeneagle5

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    What's the current(base) amount of pay for a freshly commissioned ensign and/or 2nd Lt. ? What are some of the most common pay incentives for these hard chargers within their 1st 2 years following graduation from USNA ?
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    G5
     
  2. cfam386

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    Currently, base pay for an ensign is $2469 a month. This gets bumped up if you have prior enlisted service. Also, you'll get a basic housing allowance every month to pay for rent. My BAH when I report to Pensacola this summer is $1100 a month, which is enough to rent a decent place on my own or share a really nice place with a couple of roommates. You keep whatever portion of the BAH that you don't use.
    Additionally, once I get my wings I'll start receiving flight pay, which starts at $150 or so a month and increases every couple of years. I know the surface guys get sea pay, but you'll have to ask one of them for specifics.
    Also, if you're deployed in any community, you get hazardous duty pay each month you're deployed.
    There are probably other bonuses I don't know about yet, but those are the basics. All in all, not a bad deal.
     
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    As of 2008, it is approximately $2550.

    As of 2008, it is approximately $1036. Changes, up or down, annually depending on the local rental market. Officers residing in govt quarters and BOQs will basically relinquish this allowance.

    $125 per month for Ensigns commencing the month they first step in the cockpit for training, not getting their wings.



    Sea pay for everyone, aviators included, commences after 36 months at sea. Airdales, unless ship's company, only receive it if they are actually deployed. Black shoes and submariners receive credit and ultimately sea pay, after the 36 month window, any time they are on sea duty, deployed or not.

    Wrong. Depending on conditions, if you are actually deployed inside a war zone, you may receive hostile fire pay and tax exempt income but not hazardous duty pay. HDP is normally associated with non aircrew performing aviation duties, such as non-crewmember flying or parachuting, or working on the flight deck.

    Additionally, all officers receive $202.76 for BAS (basic allowance for subsistance-food). This is the same $202.76 budget that the Academy is being forced to utilize when feeding the Brigade. Once an officer, when deployed, they will join the mess. The Mess President determines mess dues which most ofter exceed BAS. But when ashore and not on sea duty, it is an allowance for food, however the officer sees fit.

    There are many other special pays including foreign language, dive, submarine, etc.
     
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  4. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    Ignore everything I said about sea pay. Apparently, it has changed recently and is no longer as per the military.com charts nor my memory. Not sure what it is.

    BAS is highly location dependent and varies as per the cost of living. There are internet sites which break it down by location.
     
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    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    I'm sure it's just a typo, but BAS does not vary. BAH varies by location as you can check at this website:

    http://perdiem.hqda.pentagon.mil/perdiem/bah.html
     
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    Yep, or a brain dump. BAH used to be called BAQ ('Quarters in' lieu of 'Housing'). So the red flag goes up on the 'Q' key downstroke. There is no telling where my finger will end up. Yes, I did mean BAH. I was in on the early days of the VHA (variable housing allowance) portion and one had to prove any rent/mortgage greater than the base BAQ. It was a disbursing nightmare and also contributed to rent inflation in military areas.
     
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    Submarine wardrooms do not run a separate mess. Submarine Force regulations require that officers eat the same food as enlisted.
     
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    Never knew that. Do the officers forfeit their entire BAS?
     
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    And believe me, it's very good grub! I haven't seen the south side of 200 lbs. since my third boomer patrol! (30+ years ago)
     
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    whoops, i was working with some slightly outdated info. Thanks for the clarification on sea pay/hazardous duty, that wasn't explained well to us. On the bright side, seems like I'll be making more than I anticipated :biggrin:
     
  12. subskipper

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    Yes, they do.

    The daily allowance per person is slightly higher on submarines, too. That's what determines the Food Service Officer's budget. The difference isn't large, but it seems to be enough to make the food uniformly good.

    Also, Food Service Officers on submarines had more latitude in the sources they could buy from. They didn't have to use the Navy supply system for everything. So it was easier to get certain things. I once made the XO of a DDG I was riding my eternal friend by giving him a jumbo bottle of Tabasco.
     

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