People that are recruited for sports...

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  1. eagle125

    eagle125 New Member

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    So I know this one kid who is already committed to playing baseball at usafa but I saw him at the congressional nomination interview today. Does he still need a nomination and does that mean instead of 10 vacancies for usafa there's only 9 left or would there still be 10 since he's already committed to usafa??


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  2. eagle125

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    Also one of the kids at the interview goes to the prep school... Does this mean he automatically gets a nomination again..?


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  3. Spud

    Spud BGO

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    Read the recent thread below concerning "Recruited athletes" and ""Blue Chip" athletes and especially go over Christcorp's replies.
     
  4. melindayching

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    Everyone needs a nomination. I've noticed in our state that the preppies and repeat applicants get principal noms if available. And if the athletes can get a nom off of the slate proffered by a MOC, then I believe that is preferable. But as mentioned above, CC and other experts on noms have more insight as to how the process goes and how the noms are charged to the MOCs. Good luck!
     
  5. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    Nominations are required by federal law. If he is appointed, he has to have a nomination.

    No Member of Congress is required to give a nom. to anyone in particular. It's their choice.
     
  6. Christcorp

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    Fwiw. There have been plenty of recruited athletes who didn't get an appointment. Some didn't receive a nomination. Some didn't qualify academicly. The academy isn't like a traditional school where you can get a scholarship in sports and automatically get in.
     
  7. AFrpaso

    AFrpaso USAFA '17

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    I've heard of something called a "Superintendent's nomination" but I'm pretty fuzzy on the details.

    I applied through LEAD and was nominated by my Commander to the Prep School. The year I attended the Prep School there was a lot of confusion about whether or not the prior-e cadet candidates needed to secure a new nomination or not and whether this nomination needed to come from one of the traditional sources (Rep, Senator, VP or Pres). It turned out that the majority of prior-e candidates did get a traditional nomination and neither did a number of recruited athletes.

    Appointments were handed out anyways. I don't know how the Admissions Office worked out the details. This is where I heard the term "Superintendent's nomination" but I don't think it actually refers to a decision being made by the USAFA Sup.

    If I recall correctly, I think I remember a few athletes who were offered prep school slots despite the fact that they lacked a nomination.

    Anyway, all of this is really just hearsay so I would take it with a grain of salt.
     
  8. Pima

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    I also think many are fuzzy on the Supe.

    I thought that it is a charging allotment.

    IOWS, you get an LOA from for your MOC. USAFA can now take you from the MOC and charge it to the Supe. However, there is no superintendent nomination slate per se. You can't apply for it, like VP or MOC. They must initiate that charge.

    It is not uncommon to have 6,7 or 8 on one MoCs(congressional) slate to get an appointment.
    Here's how they can pull that off:
    1. Candidate Smith: 3 MoC noms., ROTC nom., VP.
    ~ Charged to Sen. A
    ~~ Con is not used
    2. Candidate Jones: same as above
    ~ Charged to Sen. B
    ~~ Con is not used
    3. Candidate Jane: 3 MOCs, Presidential, VP and ROTC
    ~ Charged to Presidential
    ~~ Con is not used
    4. Candidate Bob: 3 MoCs, but Sen. B had 2 slates
    ~ Charged to Sen. B slate 2
    ~~ Con is not used
    5. Candidate Mary: LOA and only the congressional mom and VP.
    ~ Charged to the Supe
    ~~ Con is not used
    6. Candidate Tom: Congr. VP and ROTC
    ~ Charged to ROTC
    ~~ Con is not used
    7. Candidate Katie: Cong and VP
    ~ Charged to the Cong.

    * Charged as in they have the highest WCS for the slate!

    8 9 and 10 may now seem to be headed straight to the national pool, right? Maybe not!
    ~ Candidate Smith had USAFA as plan B and wanted USNA. Declines the appointment.
    ~~ Sen. A now has a new charge available. Candidate 8 on the Cong.slate may now be the winner.
    ~ Candidate Jones is medically DQd. Candidate 9 is now picked up
    ~ Candidate 10 is informed end of May he is being charged to the VP.

    I just got all ten in. How realistic is that? Not very. How realistic is it that you may find several on the slate if you all are competitive? Very, impo.
    ~ A non competitive state where you can get all three MOCs gives you more chances.
    ~ A competitive state where they talk and only 1 is given, can have a lot picked up off the pool list because typically their stats are superstars when they look at the national scores.

    You need the nomination, it is law, but more importantly with time you will learn it is the charging system that can be the difference.

    OBTW, when you get the appointment don't wrap yourself up around the idea of where did I get charged to? It doesn't matter and nobody could care less!
    ~ My BFF used to in for everyone that her hubby was a VP charge. The room was always silent and she took that as a sign of WOW! Her DH finally said to her, please STOP! She didn't realize that it was the only way to get him as a recruited athlete since he didn't get an MOC.
    ~~ I am not trying to slam VP charges, because obviously USAFA wanted him. I am just saying don't assume it is not used as a tool to get the best class possible.
     
  9. Boozebin

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    My DS (at Prep right now) was in a briefing about two to three months ago where the staff strongly recommended to all Preppies to apply to all available nominations source.

    You must be in Colorado as well since most out of state Preppies will do phone interviews. My DS, a native of Colorado, will physically be there for the interviews and was this past Sunday.
     

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