As a cadet 7 hours is also a luxury. My son often says he got the most sleep during Beast. Believe it or not, the new cadets will adjust.
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As a cadet 7 hours is also a luxury. My son often says he got the most sleep during Beast. Believe it or not, the new cadets will adjust.
Thanks for the inputs.
So I shouldn't have this concern?
I did speak with son's physician who said that a growing person needs more hours than that of an adult. The son is still growing fast(height) this year and was the younger in his HS class.
So I shouldn't have this concern?
I did speak with son's physician who said that a growing person needs more hours than that of an adult. The son is still growing fast(height) this year and was the younger in his HS class.
I'm sure he'll adjust. If he likes military life enough, he will force himself to adjust.
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How much was he used to sleeping in HS? With sports, scouts, and other extracurriculars that took place usually before homework, I have been lucky this last year to get home by 8pm, and with my APs and other honors classes, generally didn't finish homework until at least 11. And I don't have texting built into my plan, so that has never been an issue
School starts here at 7:40, and I am up working on chores and the like by 6 (my mother has us set alarms for NLT 5:45
) every weekday morning. So really, if you think about it, I bet he wasn't getting as much sleep as you thought, when you take all that into account. On a good weeknight, I got 7 hours last year. I don't think I have stopped growing either, I am one of the youngest in my class (Freshman year, I always got the first piece of cake for the Marine Corps birthday, military ball, awards ceremony, etc.)
I'm sure your kid had the same routine last year, as a student athlete citizen club president extracurricular champ, maybe remind him of that routine in a letter?
He'll remember that deal soon.
That's pretty amazing that you can get your homework done in 3 hours. I dilly dally the whole day away.
Kudos to you for keeping up with such a busy schedule. I just wanted to throw in that I had heard a WP cadet say that she actually gets MORE sleep at West Point than she did during high school, because she liked to stay out and party? I thought it was amusing. She also mentioned that you'll learn how to power nap at West Point.
I wonder if these could work http://www.highexistence.com/alternate-sleep-cycles/
Kudos to you for keeping up with such a busy schedule. I just wanted to throw in that I had heard a WP cadet say that she actually gets MORE sleep at West Point than she did during high school, because she liked to stay out and party? I thought it was amusing. She also mentioned that you'll learn how to power nap at West Point.
I wonder if these could work http://www.highexistence.com/alternate-sleep-cycles/
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That was on a good night haha. Thanks for the compliment, it's all about budgeting energy and time management. Once you figure it out, it's really easy to stick to. And one thing of advice that works in High school, not sure about WP- if it gets too late (For me it was 12, every night), GO TO BED. It's counter productive, whatever 'studying' you may be getting, wont pay off if you can't stay awake for the test. You do have to get a little sleep to perform, and you can always study a little before school starts!
As leaders, they're expected to be responsible for the new cadets' welfare, so that's why they make sure all the new cadets are fine before they go about for their own needs. That's how leaders function, making sure their subordinates are happy before they're happy.
I remember last year when son was juggling with homework, sports, clubs, ACT, and college applications he didn't have much to sleep. He appeared fine the next morning, but as this accumulated, he began to look numb and slow reacting when asked a question. Like many other parents here, we let him catch up some sleep on the weekends when possible. In one instance after weeks of lack of sleep (ACT, SAT2's on the weekends), he set a record of sleeping for 18 hours straight. I was shocked, I tried to wake him up for meals couldn't do that easily. After the sleep, he was like , of course.
When Son called home 2 days ago, I asked him whether he was able to get some more sleep last Sunday. He said no he didn't. He wasn't able to because he had to finish some activity (the line was breaking up I didn't hear the exact).
His bro, same class (to a different college), was quite different who didn't need any sleep, it seems
. Both come from the same parents .
, of course.When Son called home 2 days ago, I asked him whether he was able to get some more sleep last Sunday. He said no he didn't. He wasn't able to because he had to finish some activity (the line was breaking up I didn't hear the exact).
His bro, same class (to a different college), was quite different who didn't need any sleep, it seems
. Both come from the same parents .
You'll find that most teens today are allowed to have unfettered access to texting while in bed, they'll end up staying up all night long and sleep well past noon the next day if allowed. It's a matter of responsibility and discipline. We still pay for DS phone and I checked his activity last year when I heard a complaint of being tired all the time....I found that the "LOL's" were coming in till the wee hours of the morning!!!
We fixed that problem quick: shut your damn phone off!!! At the very least at midnight if you expect to sleep!
He was pissed that I looked at his phone records but, it did two things 1) he now wants his own phone accountand 2) he realized that he was staying up way too long at night and playing silly games with people that didn't have the same responsibilities he had the next day.
I also never let him sleep past what thought was decent hour in the morning over the last few years. I know...mean dad but, I laugh my butt off when my son complains that: "all his friends sleep past noon everyday when not in school". Good for them I say, they'll be sleepy and unproductive all day, break the cycle!
I know that's harsh, but it's the reality today with phones/cameras on them.
7 hours of sleep is more than enough.
Maximus - you should have been a Marine!
Before I go on, I declare that I encourage my son to be mentally tough and physically strong.
I don't pretend to be an expert on the sleep issue; I just goolge what experts say is required to be healthy:
Teenage and sleep (recommend 9.5 hrs average and the reasons):
http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/teensandsleep/a/teenssleepwell.htm
There are many studies if you google and I have not found one that says 7 hrs is more than enough. Reality is there is just not that many hrs to sleep at WP. And people usually squeeze sleep time as it is usually the last priority.
Sorry, I am being the one arguing with the train of thoughts here. That is usually not a good thing, is it.
I don't pretend to be an expert on the sleep issue; I just goolge what experts say is required to be healthy:
Teenage and sleep (recommend 9.5 hrs average and the reasons):
http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/teensandsleep/a/teenssleepwell.htm
There are many studies if you google and I have not found one that says 7 hrs is more than enough. Reality is there is just not that many hrs to sleep at WP. And people usually squeeze sleep time as it is usually the last priority.
Sorry, I am being the one arguing with the train of thoughts here. That is usually not a good thing, is it.
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No call as of 1930 Eastern but a letter
We are still waiting for a call, but got a letter. Guess what is "bugging" him the most? Everyone sit down. Ready?? Are you sure? Quiet in the back. Ok here goes.....
He doesn't like it when his squad has to hurry only to get to whereever they are going only to have to wait. Never heard of that complaint before.
What the heck is going on around here?
We are still waiting for a call, but got a letter. Guess what is "bugging" him the most? Everyone sit down. Ready?? Are you sure? Quiet in the back. Ok here goes.....
He doesn't like it when his squad has to hurry only to get to whereever they are going only to have to wait. Never heard of that complaint before.
What the heck is going on around here?
Maximus - you should have been a Marine!
...I was for a few years....I'm still a "former Marine"
elan_xu, we have a common unique problem with having cadets as children, they will complain about sleep but trust me, they are getting more sleep now, [without phones] than they will ever, in today's world with cell phones.
Of this I'm sure!
We are still waiting for a call, but got a letter. Guess what is "bugging" him the most? Everyone sit down. Ready?? Are you sure? Quiet in the back. Ok here goes.....
He doesn't like it when his squad has to hurry only to get to whereever they are going only to have to wait. Never heard of that complaint before.
What the heck is going on around here?
Yep, the "hurry up and wait" syndrome - the Army is famous for it.
Oh- I knew you were....
I know, I was trumpeting to the rest of the class....scoutpilot would have my head if I didn't!