Discussion in 'ROTC' started by usmacandidate2020, Dec 3, 2015.
What are the ROTC PFA min and max scores?
Ah, Grasshopper, if you wish to be enlightened you much first seek for yourself the true wisdom of the forum sages. If you do a Google search and put in ROTC PFA minimum and maximum scores you will get a boatload of information, in fact, on the AFROTC site you will get a nice table with all scores and what they mean. Try it; you will like it and you will find the information you seek.
Yes but it doesn't say the minimums
Ah grasshopper, you do not ever want to be near the min. especially at your age going for a scholarship.
~ That PFA is not only part of your scholarship (national), but also when you enter next fall to activate the scholarship.
Look through old threads here...you will see posters stating that 100% of the scholarships recipients bust the test as soon as they get there. Won't get paid anything until they pass the PFA
~ It is not only the min/max number, but also form. HS PE many times just counts 1 sit up, 2 sit up, etc. they are not looking at form. ROTC and SA will look at form when the count.
My DS was an AFROTC PT instructor...he was the guy on the 1st week screaming your last name for the entire unit to hear, especially on the run.
Try this and pay particular attention to the Fitness Assessment Chart. Caveat: these are for AFROTC, I don't know about the others. The minimum number of composite points to pass is 75. These are from 2010, but it is what I found doing an extensive search prior to my DD taking the PFA a couple of weeks ago.
The AROTC PFA is a bit different(and based on the OP's username I'm guessing that is the one he is interested in). You do one minute of push ups, one minute of curl ups, and a one mile run. They also ask for your height and weight but that's about it. I tried looking for the minimums/maximum/averages for the AROTC scholarship PFA and I couldn't find anything about it.
Are you talking about the PFT that you take for your scholarship application? I tried looking for that many times before mine and I couldn't find anything either.
To max scores you need to be doing pushups and situps in the 54+ range per minute, and run a mile in 7mins or less. Look for the 2 minute requirements for ROTC and figure out where you should be at 1 minute. Our PMS suggested my son also have his 2 minutes results certified, as well, so that the PMS could indicate in his write up that the candidate is already maxing out the PT scores for the 2 minute tests. Apparently it happens far too often that scholarship winners aren't able to pass the minimums for the 2 minute tests.
Interesting tjb. I know for USAFA CFA (1 min mile run) is around 5:30-5:45. Kind of funny because the AF jokes that PT for them is playing a round of golf without a cart!
If you search this forum, every year you will see a thread titled something like...help my child did not pass the PFA, does that mean we have to pay for school now?
~ The threads will than go on to say from every poster, X amount or % busted at my kids school.
Being here for years I have my own opinion on why this occurs.
1. Kids train constantly prior to taking the PFA, but once submitted, they are back in their room playing XBOX.
2. They are fair weather training.
~ If it is too hot, too humid, too cold, too wet, too tired, etc. etc. etc. they aren't running.
~~ ROTC otoh says this is the date and time. We will do it if it is 95 degrees and 95% humidity. We will do it if it is 25 degrees outside. We don't care if you were up until 2 a.m. writing a paper for one of your classes.
3. PFA administer just counted regardless of form.
~ ROTC PT instructors will look at form. Improper form = not counting, wasting time and energy that can also impact the next part of the PFT.
My DS maxxed his everytime, but I will be honest. During the summer breaks @ 3 weeks before returning to school he would run at 4 p.m. (hottest part of the day). If it was about to rain, that is when he would run ...knowing that traction for his feet would be less, impacting his time. The last week before he would leave for school he would run at 6 a.m., even though he went to bed at 1 a.m. to prepare for being tired. Winter break the week before he would go back, he was running at 6 a.m....cold air impacts too.
He would do the PFT in full progression, but would also do butterfly kicks prior to starting, just to wear his body down a little more. By the time he was a junior (AS 300 AFROTC) he was doing 1 arm push ups at home for his practice PFT.
He got it very quickly...the one thing you have complete control over as a ROTC scholarship cadet is the PFT. He was not about to leave any points on the table when it came to his OML.
Didn't realize the AF had a 1 mile run time chart, I know their 1.5 mile time to get max points is 9:12 min. or less. I would imagine there are not many cadets that run a 5:30 mile.
For the Army Scholarship PFT there really are not any min. or max. score. They want to get an idea of where you are fitness wise. Don't stress if you are not doing 54 PU or SUs in one minute, if you are you are likely not doing them in proper form anyway and they realize that. The run is the only thing that is not subjective so do your best on that part, as said above, try and have a 7:00 min. or less mile run, 6:00 would be great.
DD had the following stats, in her PMS interview (Army) she was told 2 of the sections were "very good" and 1 section was "great", but I do not remember which one that was! LOL. I think it might of been the sit-ups because I remember he told her that many people struggle on those, but I am just not sure. I am sure for males the numbers need to be higher (faster).
1 Min PU 24
1 Min sit-ups 44
1 mile run 7 min., 1 sec.
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