Physics Tutor

Since I've stuck my oar in here pretty deep, please allow me to represent that neither my spouse nor I are anything resembling "helicopter" parents.

On the first day of 6th grade the Head of Middle School told all of us parents that a primary goal of middle school was to prepare our children for upper school, and that preparation in large part consisted of teaching our children to take responsibility for themselves. He asked us, as parents, to not 'get in the way' of the school teaching them to be responsible for their own homework, assignments and preparation for quizes and tests. Not that they couldn't ask for help when they felt they needed it, but they were also responsible for identifying when they needed help and for seeking it out.

For better or worse, as far DS was concerned, Mr. ________ got what he asked for. After that we only asked DS what homework he had, whether it was done, when he planned to get it done and was there anything that he needed help with. From 6th grade on, I never reviewed his homework and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times he asked for my help in studying for tests. Occasionally, when I became aware of them, I would proof-read important papers (pretty much only for typos - he rarely appreciated my editorial remarks).

Many times in listening to other parents, I've been a little shocked at how closely they were involved in their child's schoolwork. From time to time I've wondered whether I put my child at a competitive disadvantage in comparison, when other parents obviously provided significant assistance in completing projects and papers.

In retrospect, however, I am certain that we took the better route and that our DS is very much the better, the stronger, the smarter and the more self-reliant because of it. In high school, I very rarely contacted a teacher or administrator to discuss an issue involving DS. Now, I wouldn't DREAM of contacting anyone at KP to insert myself into any situation that he could be and should be resolving for himself. And he would be absolutely MORTIFIED if I did.

But I am aware of how often such intervention does occur, and I agree that it accomplishes nothing but propagating an extremely damaging effect on the ability and the willingness of many young people to take responsibility for their own lives.

Now that I've had an opportunity for some long, insightful discussions with DS about the situation at KP, I am very much in sympathy with you, Is2day, and your classmates in your quest to "save [your] school". I know that I sometimes seem to come down very hard on the upperclassmen but, although goodness knows they are far from perfect, I am developing a greater understanding of the complexities, contradictions and frustrations that you all have to deal with in "bring[ing] about the necessary change".

Although with each passing year for the last several decades, it seems that KP is having to do more with less, there is still so much to admire and love. There is nothing wrong with KP that some good leadership and a lot of money can't fix. Unfortunately, much of the leadership that is needed cannot come from the upperclass midshipmen, and the money cannot come entirely from the alumni. KP has scraped along, and scraped along, as long as it can, but now, I believe, it has come almost to the end of what can be done without strong leadership and a significant infusion of cash.

I really, really hope that both arrive before the Kings Pointer sinks slowly into the mud of Long Island Sound next to Mallory Pier.
 
ParkerMom,

I know that I am new to all this, but I cannot--for the life of me--imagine a reason for a parent to be calling an Academy!!! What type(s) of things do people feel warrant a call to KP? I'm just amazed by this. Do parents call USNA and USMA? I guess I can't fathom this, because it is something I would never, ever be able to bring myself to do!

On a side note, if parents are pressuring the Academy to do whatever it is they're calling about, does the Academy do it? Just curious!

Thanks!
 
fairwinds:
i wish more parents were like you in that regard. my plebe year, i remember one person's parents calling the school and whining. the rest of the school came down hard on us. and in turn we came down hard on him. he quit shortly thereafter, if memory serves correctly.
the common thought during my plebe year (06-07 school year) was that we were grown up enough to handle ourselves and parents stayed out of the picture pretty much entirely. they seemed to understand their role was to be our "corner men" giving us pep talks and advice between bouts with the school, but when the bell rang, it was left up to us what we did in the ring.
unfortunately for these kids, i've noticed a huge shift in parenting technique where it's quite the opposite of that example. the kid will be in the ring as long as he doesn't take a haymaker to the forehead. when it starts to suck, momma and daddy come in and take care of the rest of the fight. they'll soon realize how foolish this is. i have a very strong feeling that these kids whose parents won't let the kids stand and fight their own battles will be in for a rude awakening out at sea.
life at sea isn't a battle, but there are a few key things to know, which i'm worried these younger kids might have a bit harder of a time with, because of the softening up of our program. key things for shipping out: 1- claim responsibility for your actions and don't try to hide flaws in your work; 2-turn to when you're supposed to--there are no excuses for being late to work/watch (no one cares how little sleep you got, or how many drinks you had at the seaman center); 3-stay humble and understand just how little you actually know; 4- RESPECT--enough said.

while i do not really approve of beating the snot out of kids for errors (the way we were as plebes), it seems that in the effort to "legitimize" the training program for plebes, they've gone totally overkill on the other side and these kids don't see consequences for their actions or inactions. this will only hurt them later on and that in and of itself makes me very sad.

the firstclassmen want to see these plebes do well. we really do, but when they start threatening to disenroll seniors for doing their jobs in an effort to help make the plebes better, then we have to look out for ourselves first. your kids aren't worth us sacrificing the last 4 years of our lives for.
 
the common thought during my plebe year (06-07 school year) was that we were grown up enough to handle ourselves and parents stayed out of the picture pretty much entirely. they seemed to understand their role was to be our "corner men" giving us pep talks and advice between bouts with the school, but when the bell rang, it was left up to us what we did in the ring.
Is2day: What an outstanding analogy:thumb:
The downside of the internet is that it allows people to feel "involved" when the reality is that they are not involved and have no business being so. 30 years ago my parents only heard what I chose to tell them or bellyache about and they knew that they were only getting a Cadet's perspective of life. That is STILL all you are getting- you just get it now from a different source. Then and now there is much more going on than appears on the surface. At this stage of their life it is no longer about us as Mom or Dad- it's about the Cadets/Midshipman developing as leaders of men & women in hazardous professions. You would not call Paris Island or Ft Benning Great Lakes or Cape May to make sure sluggo is getting the proper nourishment- you would hear about it on graduation day. Your son or daughters future subordinates are being schooled right now in a hard school- yours are supposed to be doing the same. Mom and Dad are not on the bridge, in the engineering spaces or humping in Paktika with an M4 and a rucksack. Matriculation day was an event for parents just as for the cadets/midshipmen involved- Parents need to let them go.
 
the common thought during my plebe year (06-07 school year) was that we were grown up enough to handle ourselves and parents stayed out of the picture pretty much entirely. they seemed to understand their role was to be our "corner men" giving us pep talks and advice between bouts with the school, but when the bell rang, it was left up to us what we did in the ring.

IS2DAY: This is indeed the right analogy and though I might have chosen different words, your thoughts/concerns and 4 keys to success re: going to sea are also dead on relative to the failure of parents to adequately let go during the early part of a midshipman's plebe year. Bruno's comments are also dead nuts on because perspective is an interesting thing and the perspective of an overtired 18 yo who might be facing their first real challenges in life and feeling alone are indeed often skewed so being a "corner-man" is both the only real and only useful thing a parent can do. Especially when in just 6 to 11 months "Johnny" or "Susie" are likely to find them self in the very real, very adult world working in close quarters with 18 - 40 people doing their jobs half a world away from home and if they are lucky 2 or 3 people their own age to interact and socialize with. In other words when you are at sea on a working ship, there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide and few people who really care when you have something to b!%@& about though clearly merchant seaman do love to b!%@& to each other a lot.

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the underclassmen want to see these plebes do well. we really do, but when they start threatening to disenroll seniors for doing their jobs in an effort to help make the plebes better, then we have to look out for ourselves first. your kids aren't worth us sacrificing the last 4 years of our lives for.

You are referring to first classmen loosing their midshipman officer billets or receiving demerits for failing to administer a prescribed training regime that no longer includes IT and instead choosing to IT Plebes and doing what they think is right vice what the Commandant and his staff have decided are the appropriate limits, I must strongly disagree. In disagreeing there I'll point toward a seagoing analogy and ask what do you think should/would happen if a Third Mate choose to ignore the Captain's orders or a Third A/E chose to ignore the orders/direction of the Chief Engineer and instead just go their own way without calling them and discussing it first? I haven't been to sea for some time but I have to believe that today as when I last was at sea there would be pretty adverse consequences for the Mate or A/E.
 
You are referring to first classmen loosing their midshipman officer billets or receiving demerits for failing to administer a prescribed training regime that no longer includes IT and instead choosing to IT Plebes and doing what they think is right vice what the Commandant and his staff have decided are the appropriate limits, I must strongly disagree. In disagreeing there I'll point toward a seagoing analogy and ask what do you think should/would happen if a Third Mate choose to ignore the Captain's orders or a Third A/E chose to ignore the orders/direction of the Chief Engineer and instead just go their own way without calling them and discussing it first? I haven't been to sea for some time but I have to believe that today as when I last was at sea there would be pretty adverse consequences for the Mate or A/E.

i can certainly agree with your example/analogy about seagoing. here's the problem though (and i'll put it in terms of the same analogy that you just used). what if the chief engineer/ captain didn't give an order and communications were nonexistent? that's what seems to be the case right now. there's been no real training manual this year, and who knows how many years in rears that goes. however, the training manual does not exist. so it's left to the judgment of the training officers on what the limits are, pretty much until they do something that the high brass doesn't like (but hasn't officially set any real guidelines on) and they get hammered. i've heard "ignorance is not an excuse" and normally i would agree... but when you're ignorant of non-existant rules, then i'd say there is indeed an excuse. if you want the training officers to follow a prescribed training regimen, then have one established. that's all.
 
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