Plebe getting a pass?

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  1. educ8

    educ8 Member

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    My son is a Plebe and has applied for a pass for this weekend to attend his cousin's wedding a few hours away. It has been approved "at the Company Level" but he has yet to hear anything concrete from anyone higher. He/we are starting to get a little concerned because I'm scheduled to pick him up on Friday after his last military obligation, but we don't yet know if he has been granted permission. He has inquired through the chain of command several times but he says that he is told that it "gets lost in the chain." and he, naturally, doesn't want to annoy anybody, since life is challenging as it is!

    How high up the chain does the approval process have to go (Brigade, Regiment, Corps)?

    Not really worried (since he/we knew that things like this would occur), just wondering.
     
  2. sprtzm

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    Some passes not approved until Fri am.....I would have him talk to his team leader (a Yuk).
     
  3. educ8

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    Thanks for the reply. We'll just have to wait.
     
  4. lotrjedi13

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    A plebe's pass request would go through three levels: cadet platoon leader, cadet company commander, and company TAC officer/NCO (if memory serves).

    It is nearly axiomatic that cadets always approve subordinates' pass requests--especially plebes. TACs rarely disapprove passes, unless a cadet has a duty (e.g. football game) over the requested weekend or is in hot water academically, militarily, or physically. The term "rubber-stamp" is not accurate, but the term does help convey the idea that unless the cadet is flagged disciplinarily or has a duty, I have never known or heard of a TAC not approving a pass out of spite or negligence.

    Most passes do not receive TAC approval until Thursday or Friday. So, assuming approval, your son likely will not receive his pass approval email until tomorrow at the earliest. If I had a quarter for every time passes were approved on Friday after lunch, I'd have a lot more of my cow loan paid off.

    Hope that helps!
     
  5. BigBear

    BigBear Class of 2015

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    Does he have a pass to use? If he hasn't used his base pass, he should be fine (unless he is trying to return late on Sunday?). If he doesn't have a pass and is trying to get a performance pass, he should still be fine unless he's failing a class, etc.
     
  6. ca2midwestmom

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    BigBear,
    Are the number of passes per year greater in subsequent years (Yuk, Cow, Firstie)? What other privileges do cadets receive after Plebe year? I know now they have to be in uniform at all times, unless on a pass. Is there anything significantly different between Plebe & Yuk years?
     
  7. BigBear

    BigBear Class of 2015

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    The number of base passes goes up every year or semester. Base passes are basically free passes available as long as you aren't deficient.

    Performance passes are technically limited (1 or 2 per semester maybe) but many companies don't track them and I know of some classmates who took pass 5+ times using performance passes.

    Other privileges, such as leaving post for an evening or wearing other clothes, are awarded at various points throughout your cadet career. For the most part though, these are company dependent as some companies let people do more than others.
     
  8. educ8

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    Thanks for the responses this Forum is always a great source of info both in the application process and once you have a cadet or are a cadet. He told me last night that it is on his TACs desk. :rolleyes:
     

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