Plebe Q/A

runnerboy26

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I remember how helpful threads like this were last year as they allowed me the opportunity to ask questions regarding topics that ranged from admissions to living conditions. So, as I have a little free time, I thought I would create a thread so that anyone who has a question can potentially ask it. Feel free to ask about anything that you are evenly mildly curious about, and I will try my best to answer as many as questions as possible.
 
Thank you for taking questions. Please give some suggestions for Christmas presents for my potential Plebe. Are the Black backpacks issued?
 
The black backpacks are issued, so no need to buy one. In terms of Christmas presents, I recommend two kinds of gifts: fun and practical. As for fun, I recommend the obvious assortment of west point clothing and gear. As for practical, there are numerous things you can buy that your potential plebe could utilize during Beast and the academic year. For Christmas I received a good watch (I love my G-Shock), a Leatherman multi-tool, a coffee maker (which I use like crazy now) and various subscriptions to internet websites like Netflix and Amazon Prime (which is tremendously helpful during the Academic year).
 
On A Day, you got to see your family for the first time after beast. Did you have time to leave post or do you stay on post with your family? We live two hours away. Not sure
How to plan! Thanks so much!!!
 
Thanks for doing this!

What is cadet pay for plebes? I understand it's not so straightforward but what have you seen so far?

Have you enjoyed your host family? What has been your experience so far with them?
 
You can definitely leave post, and I had a ton of time to spend with my parents! After the parade on Saturday I met up with them and spent all day with them. The only stipulation is that I had to be back by TAPs that night, which was 1 AM. I live in California though so we only went to see a movie and relaxed in our motel, but my roommate went back home, as he lives an hour away, and spent time with his family and friends.
 
Cadet Pay: I'm not completely sure as to the actual salary, but I personally see $200 a month in my direct deposit (which I can spend in any way I see fit). That amount will increase though over the course of the four years.
Host Family: I have had a tremendous experience with my host family. They constantly invite me to events at their house that allow me the opportunity to get away from West Point for a bit and relax. They also allow me to do laundry at their house, watch football games, and enjoy a home cooked meal every now and then. My first experience with them was the most memorable as I met them during the Ice Cream Social, which occurs half way through Beast, and they had phones throughout the house for me and other plebes to call our family and friends. Ultimately, the sponsor system at West Point is an amazing resource that you should utilize if for nothing more than to have great food with some very experienced members of the West Point community.
 
Has West Point met your expectations so far?

How are the courses? What have been the most difficult ones?

What are the most popular extracurricular activities among plebes?

How many hours of sleep do you get daily on average?

Any recommendations in getting ready for Beast Summer.

Hang in there! And thank you for your service to our Nation!
 
Has West Point met your expectations?
The short answer, yes. The longer answer is that I personally had a very hard first couple weeks of Beast as I struggled to assimilate into the culture of West Point. The challenge of Beast is not psychical, as you are never asked to do anything impossible, it is mental. Many, like myself, have a hard time the first couple weeks, but once you find you're place it can be one of the most rewarding places in the world, especially during the academic year. My friend and I, when really bored and feeling philosophical, summed up the experience in a sentence. Really high highs, and really low lows. It's not always easy, but I have had some of the best experiences of my life that I wouldn't trade for anything. I will say this though, don't come here expecting it to be easy, expect a challenge and you will do amazing.

How are the courses? What have been the most difficult ones?
The courses are not necessarily challenging if you have taken AP courses before, as they are very similar in subject matter. I have some classes that are very easy and others I struggle in. I personally found my largest challenge in Military Movement and Chemistry. That said it is not the subject matter that is difficult but finding a balance of all your responsibilities, which range from a large amount of classes to military duties and athletics. If you can find that balance though they often aren't too hard. Another challenge some cadets have is acclimating to the Thayer Method as we will have to teach ourselves the lesson the night before and then come to class the next day to essentially make sure we understand it. The Thayer Method isn't hard as long as you put time into studying.

What are the most popular extracurricular activities among plebes?
Cupping our hands and walking on the walls. In a more serious answer, the variety of extracurricular activities here is one of the best parts as there are truly an infinite amount of things to do there is no resounding most popular one. I am personally a runner and find a lot of time to go for long runs with friends and also spend a lot of time in Arvin. You will ultimately find the extracurricular activity that fits you individually though.

How many hours of sleep?
Enough. Really though, this is largely dependent on person. I normally find myself waking up anywhere from 0530 - 0600 depending on my particular duty (ie: trash, minutes, cleaning), so it depends on the amount of homework that night. My roommate normally gets about 8 hours of sleep a night, where as I get about 5. It is really dependent on how productive the particular person is.

Beast Recommendations: Enjoy your time in high school and your summer. I am guilty of being someone who wasted their summer away preparing for Beast and studying knowledge, while I could have been spending more time with my friends. Be reasonable and prepare to a good degree. Practice for your APFT, stay in shape, and make sure you have all the necessities packed. Otherwise, you will be taught everything during Beast and given AMPLE time to study knowledge, so enjoy your freedom and friends while you still can. Don't stress about Beast it is more of mental challenge than a psychical one, and as long as you are here for the right reasons you WILL make it through.
 
Has West Point met your expectations?
The short answer, yes. The longer answer is that I personally had a very hard first couple weeks of Beast as I struggled to assimilate into the culture of West Point. The challenge of Beast is not psychical, as you are never asked to do anything impossible, it is mental. Many, like myself, have a hard time the first couple weeks, but once you find you're place it can be one of the most rewarding places in the world, especially during the academic year. My friend and I, when really bored and feeling philosophical, summed up the experience in a sentence. Really high highs, and really low lows. It's not always easy, but I have had some of the best experiences of my life that I wouldn't trade for anything. I will say this though, don't come here expecting it to be easy, expect a challenge and you will do amazing.

How are the courses? What have been the most difficult ones?
The courses are not necessarily challenging if you have taken AP courses before, as they are very similar in subject matter. I have some classes that are very easy and others I struggle in. I personally found my largest challenge in Military Movement and Chemistry. That said it is not the subject matter that is difficult but finding a balance of all your responsibilities, which range from a large amount of classes to military duties and athletics. If you can find that balance though they often aren't too hard. Another challenge some cadets have is acclimating to the Thayer Method as we will have to teach ourselves the lesson the night before and then come to class the next day to essentially make sure we understand it. The Thayer Method isn't hard as long as you put time into studying.

What are the most popular extracurricular activities among plebes?
Cupping our hands and walking on the walls. In a more serious answer, the variety of extracurricular activities here is one of the best parts as there are truly an infinite amount of things to do there is no resounding most popular one. I am personally a runner and find a lot of time to go for long runs with friends and also spend a lot of time in Arvin. You will ultimately find the extracurricular activity that fits you individually though.

How many hours of sleep?
Enough. Really though, this is largely dependent on person. I normally find myself waking up anywhere from 0530 - 0600 depending on my particular duty (ie: trash, minutes, cleaning), so it depends on the amount of homework that night. My roommate normally gets about 8 hours of sleep a night, where as I get about 5. It is really dependent on how productive the particular person is.

Beast Recommendations: Enjoy your time in high school and your summer. I am guilty of being someone who wasted their summer away preparing for Beast and studying knowledge, while I could have been spending more time with my friends. Be reasonable and prepare to a good degree. Practice for your APFT, stay in shape, and make sure you have all the necessities packed. Otherwise, you will be taught everything during Beast and given AMPLE time to study knowledge, so enjoy your freedom and friends while you still can. Don't stress about Beast it is more of mental challenge than a psychical one, and as long as you are here for the right reasons you WILL make it through.

Thank you so much for such an in-depth and thoughtful response.

My DS is a track and long distance runner. He is not Division I caliber, but was thinking of joining the Orienteering team. Would you recommend extracurricular activities that keep you in shape like orienteering, sandhurst, etc to maintain you're conditioning for the APFT.

Also, are you thinking about going to Air Assault School and/or getting your GAFBD this upcoming summer (I know that's months away)? Are they plausible options for cadets?

Thanks again for your insights and assistance.
 
Orienteering?
I highly recommended orienteering! I may be completely biased though as my squad leader is actually captain of the orienteering team. It is an excellent way to stay in shape and provides a way to spend some time outside of West Point as it offers the highly coveted "trip section". As a runner as well, I recommend getting into a club, as I was placed into Company Athletic Submission Grappling, which I have come to enjoy, since I did not try out for too many running clubs (I just tried out for marathon and did not make it). Make sure to keep options open and try out for a ton of running related clubs if you want to continue running, and try out for clubs in general as they offer many great opportunities.
(If you message me I can try and get your DS in contact with the Orienteering captain if that's something they are interested in)
Air Assault?
I am actually very interested in Airborne, but I will know more about what I will actually do as the school year progresses. As for plausibility, all MAIDs are highly plausible for Cadets as they often get top priority over ROTC programs. My PL during Beast completed Combat Diver school and two people in my company have completed SERE school. As for plebes, I will have the option of doing either Air Assault or Airborne this summer, and will have to choose at least one. the majority of Cadets will attend Airborne school (as it is conducted on campus and has a large amount of spots, and a smaller minority will do Airborne. The short answer is, if your DS is interested enough in pursuing MAIDs and is willing to use his summers/ breaks to pursue them, they will be able to do quite a few.
 
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On A Day, you got to see your family for the first time after beast. Did you have time to leave post or do you stay on post with your family? We live two hours away. Not sure
How to plan! Thanks so much!!!

Yeah everyone gets opp's so you can as far as 75 miles out.
 
Air Assault?
I am actually very interested in Airborne, but I will know more about what I will actually do as the school year progresses. As for plausibility, all MAIDs are highly plausible for Cadets as they often get top priority over ROTC programs. My PL during Beast completed Combat Diver school and two people in my company have completed SERE school. As for plebes, I will have the option of doing either Air Assault or Airborne this summer, and will have to choose at least one. the majority of Cadets will attend Airborne school (as it is conducted on campus and has a large amount of spots, and a smaller minority will do Airborne. The short answer is, if your DS is interested enough in pursuing MAIDs and is willing to use his summers/ breaks to pursue them, they will be able to do quite a few.

Yuk stepping in here..
MIADs are company dependent; each cadet company is allotted a different number of slots for MIADs: mostly Air Assault, SHARP, and Airborne. Air Assault is the school held on post that most cadets attend.
 
What are weekends like Plebe year? I know some of it depends on the calendar and football games.
 
What are weekends like Plebe year? I know some of it depends on the calendar and football games.

Some weekends we have training which start at about 0530 and NLT 1130. So weekends we have no duties so that's pretty nice and we got the football games that usually take up much of the afternoon. Other than that, you are stuck at West Point and that gets you gloomy sometimes. You can go to Highland Falls but there's is really noting there.
 
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