Political Views

[Pima]

Ask him if he uses his Tri-Care health insurance as primary or if he uses his school system health insurance as primary?

If he uses his school system as primary, than how can he defend Tri-Care as a model? FYI: People who have 2 health insurance providers have the option of which one is primary.

If he is a true liberal, here's a question to see where he truly stands. It goes back to Obama and spreading the wealth comment to Joe the Plumber. Does he spread the wealth when it comes to the grading system? A true liberal would want equality amongst all, regardless of their station in life.

How does he rectify giving a C to a student who tries their hardest, but an A to another student where it comes easy to them?

Our DS (now a rising JR in college) took APUSH as a JR in HS. He never studied, pulled an A, got a 5 on the AP. Our DD studied her butt off, pulled B's and got a 4. Under a liberal thought of spread the wealth, both should have received a B. That would be the fair thing. Ask him if he has failed a student. If he has, how can he justify it? 10 will get you 20 his defense will be they did not work to his level. How is that creating equality if he is the one who deems the level?

Life isn't fair, our system is not based on "spreading the wealth", yet, true liberals believe the stronger should support the weaker based on this premise.
It shouldn't matter how hard you worked for what you have obtained, you should help the others.

This may sound harsh, but guess what, my job in life is to protect and help my family. I demand that my children step up to the plate, and when they strike out, I will help them to get back up. I do not expect the govt to be my safety net. As a family we have limited funds, we are not the Bill Gates of the world. If that means, I don't want to pay higher taxes when I have health care because I believe Medicaid or care exists, and those taxes will take money away from my family than so be it.

FYI, we are not people who go out to dinner weekly, or to the movies just to kill 2 hrs. We are people who donate food to local soup kitchens, and our community.

Again this goes back to my theory that govt should be limited in my life. Raise our taxes to pay for govt programs, and we will be forced to cut something out to pay our bills. Who loses? Not my family, but our community. I am not about to miss a utility pmt so I can donate food to the soup kitchen.

 

[Mongo]

As I stated earlier, we receive better care under Aetna, with more benefits at the same cost as Tri-Care. Fun fact: A retiree now is usually sent off base/post because they are overcrowded, that means as a retiree you are going to pay a co-pay, and in certain areas you may be searching for a needle in a haystack to get that doc.

Perhaps he has Tricare Standard, a MOAA supplement, and lives in an area where he cqn find a doctor. I would bet that this type of coverage would beat your private employer plan.

 

[Zaphod]

I think the liberals you're refering to tend to be the uneducated, unintelligent liberals.

Well, those are the ones in power and doing all the talking for your side.

 

[Zaphod]

You can thank the most liberal organization in the world, the ACLU, for fighting for YOUR civil rights against totalitarian Government intrusion and control.

Yeah, you go ahead and think that.

Isn't it funny that they always seem to argue ONE SIDE of the spectrum?

Freedom OF religion becomes freedom FROM religion. The right to an abortion is constitutional (despite the word not appearing anywhere in the document), but the Second Amendment doesn't really say waht it says. Nixon didn't deserve a lawyer, but murdering terrorists do. Etc., etc.

Atheists, Communists, and Lunatics, United.

 

[Zaphod]

Very well said, falcongirl. No use in dealing with folks, who speak in generalizations and anecdotes...

Oh, I see. Don't address the issues, just attack using the usual mindless liberal drivel. It's SO effective!

BTW, there once was this registered republican who detonated a truck bomb in OK city, killing and maiming scores. A terrorist, if you will. All republicans are probably like that. RRIIIIGGHHTT

And all democrats are probably just like the personal friend of our president, Mr. Bill Ayers, who bombed the Pentagon and still says his only regret was that he didn't cause more damage.

McVeigh is dead and rotting in hell. Ayers launched the career of the sitting president and is still his friend.

Nice try, though. Better luck next time.

 

[js3486]

And in the past two years, the actions of his administration prove that he's willing to back off and let defense and foreign policy professionals work.

Really? I though leaving our troops hanging in the wind for 6 or more months while he vacationed and went around the world bowing to other world leaders was despicable and deplorable. He promised change and the only thing that has changed is the man in the oval office. Now some of you youngsters on the forum are about to head off and become defenders of our freedom. As for me been there, done that and got ther scars and T-shirt to prove it. Me I am a DAV from the first gulf war. I loved this country as much today as then and I am an ardent patriot but let me let you in on a secret. I have opposed most of the policies of this administration because they are not right for America. Health care is a perfect example "it is not right for Americans to go with out health care" that on its basis is true that is the rub Liberals have worked for decades to appeal to the hearts of the public, but whether it is right is not important. A lot of critics have pointed to Canada and other European countries to make the case against it but in reality we have had socialized medicine in this country for decades. Perhaps you have heard of them they're called VA Medical Centers. It is where the government sends those that have been for lack of a better term broken or damaged by military service. Quite honestly the day I got private health insurance was the last day I ever stepped foot in one. Why because unless you are bleeding or about to die it takes 4 or 5 months to get an appointment. Yes that is here in America... and yes that is what we are headed to nationally.

Now for you young men and women who are 18 to 25 and lean toward the left more power to you, the odds are like Pima and I have you will see if you continue in your career you will move more to the center if not right in time. As I have said in the past I am a product of my life experiences but in reality we all are. The liberals are not the only ones who care for others they are just more ardent about taking our money to do so.

As for the comment about Tim Mcveigh,

I live in OKC and I was there that day and he was a John Bircher/Libertarian not a Republican. He may have registered once as a republican but I register as a Democrat when I was 18 because everyone I knew was and they were for the little people,,,,, What a load of crap but I digress. Not sure how old the person making that comment about McVeigh was but if you are under 25 you were less than 10 years odd when that happened and none of my kids under 10 as is the case with most pay attention to that sort of thing in fact some are sheltered because they are to young to even ponder over it.

 

[bruno]

Folks whatever tenuous connection this thread might have had with the purposes of this forum has long since disappeared and at this point no good is coming out of it. I'm shutting it down and for those of you who wish to prove that the other side (Liberal or Conservative) is evil incarnate- go find a new hobby or post on a forum that exists for that purpose. This one is closed