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My DD just got an email to check her status...... Turned downed by USNA.
Very disappointing, was at least hoping for NAPS, recruited athlete, 2 nominations in competitive state. On to plan B.
 
Question if you don't mind, did your DD complete everything or was their something missing on their application
 
My DD just got an email to check her status...... Turned downed by USNA.
Very disappointing, was at least hoping for NAPS, recruited athlete, 2 nominations in competitive state. On to plan B.
So sorry to hear. So Many great kids looking to the future. We are still waiting as well.
 
So sorry to hear this. I hope your DD's plan B ends up being the better fit. Hate to think of these amazing young men and women being disappointed if even for a brief time. I know life is full of disappointment but, when its your child it hurts!!
We are still waiting as well.
 
I'm so sorry. So tough on these great kids who have worked so hard for their dream. I can't help but believe all their efforts will pay off no matter where they end up! Best of luck!
 
My DD just got an email to check her status...... Turned downed by USNA.
Very disappointing, was at least hoping for NAPS, recruited athlete, 2 nominations in competitive state. On to plan B.

So sorry to hear. I thought being a recruited athlete was pretty close to guaranteed.
 
Don't be discouraged, there are many ways to reach the ultimate goal. It sucks right now but as a third time applicant I can tell you that success is on the horizon no matter what path is taken.
 
So disappointing. Very sorry. I hope that her plan B turns out to be the perfect program for her.
 
Sorry for the news. I hope you don't mind me asking but who were the two nominations from?
 
I'm sorry to hear this. Take this denial as a redirection and keep pushing. Would you mind sharing your DD test scores?
 
I got rejected my first time, and it sucks for about 3 weeks, but then it gets better. I fully love my plan B school, and am even thankful I did not initially get into the Academy. It was a blessing in disguise as it allowed me to have a year of college to develop morally, mentally and physically should I go to the Academy next year. Don't despair <3 Even really qualified applicants get turned down. Don't take it personally, and please please please please try again next year if you are really committed. Chances of getting in increase a lot your second time. Sending love your way, OP.
 
I got rejected my first time, and it sucks for about 3 weeks, but then it gets better. I fully love my plan B school, and am even thankful I did not initially get into the Academy. It was a blessing in disguise as it allowed me to have a year of college to develop morally, mentally and physically should I go to the Academy next year. Don't despair <3 Even really qualified applicants get turned down. Don't take it personally, and please please please please try again next year if you are really committed. Chances of getting in increase a lot your second time. Sending love your way, OP.
Thanks so much for all the thoughtful replies. MIDN4/CJones are you comfortable sharing any additional information about your Plan B? Has it been challenging managing school with the re-app process? We are also hearing vastly different things about the value of self prep vrs 4 year college for how candidates are perceived on re-app. Thanks!!
 
I direct your attention to this quote from Spud below which can also be found in the Service Academy Prep School forum which you can link on the home page. You'll find plenty there to help answer your question.


I am a little mystified why a prep school seems to be a plan B for so many candidates. The Naval Academy says nothing, zip, zero, nada on a prep school before a second try for an appointment. They DO say to go to a 4 year school, take courses mimicking the Plebe year academics like Calculus, chem and English and do well.....think As and Bs. A second-try applicant that shows high grades in those classes make the Admission Board sit up and take notice as the candidate is now a proven quantity in college level academics. Lets face it, if a youngster is smart enough to apply in the first place, why are they not smart enough to go to a Civilian U and without the military pressure make good grades? Same applys to an NROTC scholarship. You don't have to be in NROTC to do well in Calculus or Chem. The Naval Academy does not require you to be in ROTC either. It is nice and looks good but it is not required......those grades are what are so overwhelming. The grades are what speaks for you. A good prep school will certainly bring a student up to speed on how to study, how to increase their scores on the ACT/SAT, and give them a basis on finally taking the college level Calculus and Chem but the main result is the candidate looks better for the second run. The prep school grades are now in the application but if they are not As and Bs, forget it. If the prep school courses are easier, then they still don't look as good as the Civilian U grades. If the prep school courses are equal to Civilian U, then what was the purpose? Now add in the fact that many prep schools courses do not give college credit. If the candidate does not get in again there is a lot of money that could have gone to Civilian U.

This is not advice.....I am honestly mystified why prep schools are so popular and we seem to have more parents than candidates on this forum so I am all ears as to the reasoning as I could learn something. (Remember now, I am talking about self-paid prep schools as a back up plan before a candidate even goes before an Academy admissions board.)
 
My DD just got an email to check her status...... Turned downed by USNA.
Very disappointing, was at least hoping for NAPS, recruited athlete, 2 nominations in competitive state. On to plan B.
Best of luck...I'm sure everything will eventually work out and she will reach her dreams. If she didn't get NAPS that could mean that she has too strong of academics for them -which could be good in the long run if she chooses to reapply to the academy next year.

As a followup to a question about being a recruited athlete I think there are technically two types of recruited athletes. (this is from a parent of a recruited athlete who is going thru this for the first time so I'm still learning)

1) those "generally" recruited athletes who are recruited to the academy -but maybe lower priority/ranked athletes-where the coaches hopefully get several candidates in that they can build-or potentially deepen a team with- "if" the athlete gets accepted into the academy.

2) then there is the "blue chip recruited athlete." My DS and I were at one of the academies recently where there were a handful of athletes there for junior day-presumably all were "recruited" athletes. However, there was a list of "blue chip recruit standards" distributed for the particular sport. The list said that the blue chip recruits will be "supported and recommended" for their admissions applications. One young person there- who apparently was a recruited athlete- at least to some degree -asked what happens if you aren't at those (blue chip) standards? The coach replied that if everything else is equal they go with the blue chip recruit. So in this example, two "recruited" athletes-who both may be vying for the same team spot- are prioritized differently. The end result is one may get into the academy because of the athletic department support (and fits into one of the "allocated" slots teams are permitted)- with their application file stamped as such- while the other candidate- who may also be stellar doesn't get accepted because they didn't receive the athletic department support and recommendation (because not enough athletic slots for that team left)

For example, one of the academies told my son (who is considered a blue chip athlete- but also a strong student with a 33 ACT and other accomplishments) that they would support him for attendance to the summer camp and the academy. He recently received acceptance to that academy's summer camp. Hopefully that rolls thru to admissions as well next year. Anyway, a different academy's coach said that the recruited athletes have their files reviewed weekly with help of an admissions liaison to keep recruited athletes and files on track for admissions. Hopefully this makes sense from the recruited athlete part?
 
hi, I can definitely speak to my experience. As you may have guessed, I am a midshipman in the Naval ROTC program at my school. I am going to a tech school and doing ROTC and choir, so my life is a little hectic, but that's just how I like it. It wasn't too bad balancing the re-app process and school. I just had to prioritize it. Overall, I think ROTC is a great plan B if that is available. Even if you don't have a scholarship, you can still join the College Program and gain valuable experience and have a lot of fun. It has been an absolute joy to be in ROTC. It has totally confirmed my desire to be a Naval officer. I was pretty sad when I didn't get into the Academy the first time, but it has totally worked out. I am a strong believer in the idea that things will work out how they're supposed to. Accepting your plan B allows you time to grow and make yourself more competitive for USNA, if that really is your priority. USNA looks very favorably upon re-applicants because it shows dedication and desire to serve. Even if you don't have ROTC as an option, going to a 4 year college is also a good option as it gives you academic experience and life experience in general.
In terms of the actual application process, I would say proceed as you did the first time. I didn't change anything I did for my application besides the fact that I waited until December to submit my application instead of submitting it in August. Apply for all the nominations, get things done early (re-app packages don't get looked at until january, but still good to be proactive).
lmk if you have any other questions. Happy to share :)
 
Thanks so much for all the thoughtful replies. MIDN4/CJones are you comfortable sharing any additional information about your Plan B? Has it been challenging managing school with the re-app process? We are also hearing vastly different things about the value of self prep vrs 4 year college for how candidates are perceived on re-app. Thanks!!
Hi Scout-NC...definitely read what Sydney C and Spud said on this thread but in a nutshell, my DS was rejected last spring from USNA in April (LONG wait for a TWE!) and although he had several great back up college choices, he decided to self-prep. He took really difficult college level courses, did extremely well, and long, long story short, 2 days after his fall transcript was received in admissions he received an appointment to USMA in late January and then he received an appointment to USNA in early February. He accepted USMA and declined USNA. That being said, I can see why self-prep may not seem like a good idea mostly because it's not the conventional (or suggested) re-application method, but I also wanted to share with you that self-prep worked extremely well for my DS. Maybe it worked because of his personality type. If you asked him---I bet he'd suggest self-prep! :) I have also heard that MANY who go the college route, say they will reapply, then experience civilian college, and never reapply! :) I bet that happens more often than not and it proves the old saying: Everything happens for a reason! :) Good luck to your DD! :)
 
I'm sorry to hear it. The excitement of an email saying to check your portal gives you the expectation of good news. I hope that the plan B school is a promising option. My son has been accepted to some pretty nice schools that I think anyone would be proud to be accepted to. If your daughter is serious about an academy, she should apply again next year. But there's a chance that she'll get so involved in plan B and meet some wonderful people, that she may not want to make the switch in a year. That certainly wouldn't be a bad thing!
 
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