Possible to find out who/where nomination was charged to?

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Monikat

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I know that right now is too early because the SAs are still compiling their 2027 class, but is it ever possible, or is there a way in the future that a (candidate that has accepted their appointment, or a new cadet, or a plebe) can determine who their nomination was charged to? Meaning, can the individual ask the SA's Admissions or some other department, and if so, when?
(I recognize that this question does not matter in the scheme of things, but experiencing the intricate nom process left me curious about this)
 
Supposedly, at USNA at least, you can find out. But good luck with that bc I don’t know of anyone who ever pursued it. I asked my guy, and he rolled his eyes and gave me a firm ‘I don’t care. And no I won’t check’ response.
 
I found mine out because I received my appointment with only 1 nomination in my portal. A second one appeared a few days ago but I know I wasn't charged to that one because I already received an appointment. This seems like the easiest way to find out.
 
We really are two peas in a pod 🤣... I love your endless curiosity! I wonder if where they are charged can get shuffled around as they build the class ...🤔. Can they initially be charged to one source and then scooted over to another source as the puzzle solving evolves. I know that doesn't matter either, but I am fascinated by the way this all comes together. I'm also quite content to wonder because it's fun!
 
YoitsFly said:
I found mine out because I received my appointment with only 1 nomination in my portal. A second one appeared a few days ago but I know I wasn't charged to that one because I already received an appointment. This seems like the easiest way to find out.
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Charging can happen long after your appointment. You may not even actually be assigned to a Nom source yet.

You can be charged to any nom source you have. That’s part of the shuffling of the puzzle pieces, that happens behind the wizards curtains.
 
I will just say that there are so many things that my sons were concentrating on before reporting. They analyzed LOA vs. no-LOA, athletes vs. not, SAT scores, what appointment charged to, being on a Senate slate of ten vs. congressperson’s principal nom. And on and on… Neither received an LOA but each received the principal nomination. One was very late completing his application / brother had all complete in August. i say all this because everyone who arrives on that first day arrive equal and at a new starting point. One son required a medical waiver - his brother was perfect medically. One of my sons was a recruited athlete but graduated early and opted out. You - immediately- are taken to a common plane and it does not matter about anything that has come before - you all arrive as new cadets, plebes, or whatever they will call you and grand plans that you may have now will all go out the window. Concerns you have now will shift quickly to the here-and-now of daily life surviving plebe summer and that first year! Just one parent’s observation after see seeing two boys go through this process.

But, full understand it is natural to think about lots of things to fill the void to an offer of appointment and reporting - it is very natural to want to analyze and review. It doesn’t hurt anything. Agree with “Justdoit19” though that once admissions gets through this cycle they immediately hand off the incoming class and they are on to next year.
 
YoitsFly said:
I found mine out because I received my appointment with only 1 nomination in my portal. A second one appeared a few days ago but I know I wasn't charged to that one because I already received an appointment. This seems like the easiest way to find out.
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You are assuming that it’s not a fluid process. Think of it like sticky notes. They offered you an appointment and attached a theoretical sticky note with your first nominator’s name. Then, later, as they shuffled nom buckets around, it made more sense to move that sticky note to another applicant and stick another with your second nominator’s name on your appointment.

The sticky note flurry doesn’t settle until the class is finally built and locked down, and every sticky note finds its forever home attached to a certain appointment.
 
Capt MJ said:
You are assuming that it’s not a fluid process. Think of it like sticky notes. They offered you an appointment and attached a theoretical sticky note with your first nominator’s name. Then, later, as they shuffled nom buckets around, it made more sense to move that sticky note to another applicant and stick another with your second nominator’s name on your appointment.

The sticky note flurry doesn’t settle until the class is finally built and locked down, and every sticky note finds its forever home attached to a certain appointment.
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justdoit19 said:
Charging can happen long after your appointment. You may not even actually be assigned to a Nom source yet.

You can be charged to any nom source you have. That’s part of the shuffling of the puzzle pieces, that happens behind the wizards curtains.
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Can the nomination source find out who they were charged to?

My representative goes to SA graduations for people they nominate (it's one of their conditions to receive a nomination - you have to invite them to your graduation if appointed). Does that mean they can see who is charged to them or do they just go to whoever they gave a nomination to who happened to get an appointment?
 
YoitsFly said:
Can the nomination source find out who they were charged to?

My representative goes to SA graduations for people they nominate (it's one of their conditions to receive a nomination - you have to invite them to your graduation if appointed). Does that mean they can see who is charged to them or do they just go to whoever they gave a nomination to who happened to get an appointment?
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Generally speaking, it’s always good press for elected officials to be seen with anyone they have nominated - regardless of what happens behind the scenes - who has been offered an appointment. Their staffers can always discuss details with Admissions.

Appointees who aren’t on elected officials’ slates but got Presidential or other source noms will often be invited to photo ops.

It’s all good news.
 
Nomination source and appointment charging are not the same. Even if you only have one nomination, your appointment may not be charged to that source.

Using USMA as an example

Congressman A has 1 slate, nominates 10 candidates, and 3 receive appointments. Therefore, one appointment can be charged to Congressman A's district. A second appointee might be appointed as a Qualified Alternate (the next 150 after congressional appointments are made). The third appointee might be a recruited athlete appointed as an Additional Appointee.

Only one appointment/slate is charged to the district. The other appointees are nominated from the district, but charged elsewhere. To complicate matters further, as Capt MJ explains, admissions may play musical chairs with how appointments are charged in order to form the best class possible.

As far as finding out how your appointment was charged, admissions has the answer. For USMA - If you have a good relationship with your RC or other admissions officer, you can ask them. But remember they are usually very busy and I wouldn't bother them unless you know them well enough or have an opportunity to bring it up while discussing another matter.
 
YoitsFly said:
I found mine out because I received my appointment with only 1 nomination in my portal. A second one appeared a few days ago but I know I wasn't charged to that one because I already received an appointment. This seems like the easiest way to find out.
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No. They won't figure out who you're charged to until much later in the process. It's not logical but it is true.
 
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