Presidential Nomination

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  1. bmcfarlin

    bmcfarlin Member

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    I know that there is a forum section specifically for Nomination questions, but it doesn't get as much attention as the USMA section, so I thought I'd re-post my question on here.

    I'm applying for a Presidential Nomination to West Point and will be sending in my application this week. Are the nominations awarded on a rolling basis or all at once? And I assume they are awarded based on competitive selection?
    Thanks
     
  2. kinnem

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    More a nomenclature comment. You are either entitled to a Presidential nomination or not. I do not know how the Presidential "appointees" are determined and whether its done on a rolling basis or not.
     
  3. Falcon74

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    Presidential nom

    Getting eligibility for a Presidential nomination recognized by a service academy is simply a matter of providing copies of the appropriate paperwork (e.g., a DD214 for a retiree parent). There is no real "application".

    Having said that, hundreds of candidates may be eligible for a Presidential nom, but getting an appointment may be a different matter. There may be 1000 candidates with Presidential noms competing for 100 appointments. Competition may be worse in that category when compared to a Congressional district.

    Yes, appointments based upon Presidential noms are done on a rolling basis. My son got his appointment in November. He had only the Presidential nomination. He received his appointment about three weeks after USMA realized he had a nomination.
     
  4. BigNick

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    Presidential Appointments are given to Son and Daughters of career military people. However, there may be up to 1000 Presidential nominees competing for only 100 slots each year. It is a very competitive process. In most cases this is more competitive than Congressional nominations.

    In short, it is easy to get a Presidential nomination if you are the son or daughter of a career military member but it is difficult to get an appointment from that nomination.

    Normally, you should also seek a nomination from your Congressional Rep and Senator in addition to the Presidential.

    In the case of my son (Class of 2015) he was told early on that he did not need to get a Congressional appointment since he was immediately offered an LOA and an admission offer in September.
     
  5. Packer

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    Just a question here. With 700 to 1000 presidential nominations for 100 possible appointments there is statistically between a 1:7 to 1:10 chance of appointment and with a congressional slate of 10 their is a 1:10 chance. Given that their is no competition for receiving the presidential nomination and their is typically heavy competition for a congressional nomination I am curious as to why it would be considered more competitive than congressional appointments?
     
  6. BigNick

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    Packer,

    Not all Congressmen nominate 10 people - they CAN nominate 10 but many do not. In MANY Congressional Districts there are not 10 competitive applications each for USMA, USNA and USAFA. In other districts there are many requests for nominations - it varies greatly between Congressional Districts.

    Therefore you can only say that getting into WP from a Presidential nomination is easier than some Districts but harder than in other districts.

    In my Congressional district we got about 15 very competitive requests for West Point, 5 for the USNA and 8 for the the USAFA. In a district in northern VA (heavy military population) I was told that they got over 30 excellent candidates for each of the Academies.

    In my experience, it is clearly easier to get into WP from some districts than others - however, I think that the best candidates in America (with a few exceptions) ultimately get admitted. Normally if there is a super candidate in a district who is not the "vacancy winner", WP often is able to find another slot for them from another source (NWL or unused congressional slot from another district).
     
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    And many kids from that district also qualifies for Presidential nomination. A lot of military families in northern VA.

    In theory, candidates that qualify for Presidential nomination can be more selective group based on their military connection.
     

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