Presidential nominations for Disabled/KIA Veterans

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  1. bobby5

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    So I have received a presidential nomination to the naval academy due to my father's 100% service connected disability to Agent Orange, would this hinder me getting another nomination? And are there any other people getting this nomination? I heard only about 16 get accepted per year so I feel moderately confident this will help me because not many people get this specific nomination I hear.
     
  2. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Many, many people get Presidential noms. I'm not aware that there is a distinction for nominees whose parent is 100% disabled or KIA vs. those whose parents have served the requisite time period. If not, you're in a large pool and a Pres nom may not be enough. Children of Medal of Honor recipients have an automatic appointment if they're fully qualified -- but that's the only group of which I'm aware that has this "benefit."

    I suggest you apply for all noms for which you're eligible.
     
  3. Just_A_Mom

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    Perhaps you mis-read his post - I am surprised as a BGO you don't know this.
    There indeed is a special separate category for:
    The total allotment for these in the Brigade of Midshipment is 65. This is where the OP is getting the average of 16/year.

    This *nomination* trumps a Presidential nomination and should not be confused with one. Basically, if you are qualified your odds are excellent. In fact, I would be shocked if you were not offered an appointment (or NAPS) based on your parent's service connected disability.
    Academy admissions has the best answers to your question; good luck to you.
     
  4. bobby5

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    Thanks for your wise words of wisdom :) I really hope I am able to get in.
     
  5. 1964BGO

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    If you check the annual Class of XXXX Profiles you will find an abundance of information regarding noms, sources of appointees, etc. You also will discover that the information tends to be fairly consistent from year to year: eg, MOC noms tend to about 4800 - 4900, Presidential noms are about 900 per year, etc. One thing that you also will realize is that the first cut in the ranks of applicants tends to be the earning of noms.
     
  6. Just_A_Mom

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    You have lost me on this one. The OP is in a very special category - that of a Child of a Deceased or 100% Disabled Veteran.
    The allowed strength of the Brigade is 65. Looking at past years is not really helpful in his case.
     
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    My point: there is a plethora of questions regarding how many appointees are from one source or another. A little time spent reading the analysis or profile of a couple of recent classes readily will disclose this information and much more, regarding diversity, gender, post high school sources, prior military, academic performance, high frequency ECA's, etc. I'm just saying, if there is curiosity, there is a readily available, authoritative source of information.
     
  8. Just_A_Mom

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    But you did not answer his questions nor will the Class Profile answer his questions:

    The class profile of 2014 and 2015 simply states that 22 and 33 candidates applied in those years, respectively; who were children of a 100% disabled or deceased Veteran. Two years of data a trend does not make.
    Furthermore it does not state how many of those 22 and 33 were qualified for admission and how many were admitted either directly or to NAPS.
    Perhaps as a BGO you have some specific statistics for him.
     
  9. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Not sure why we are worrying about statistics.

    The candidate's job is to apply to all sources to which he/she is eligible for a nomination; which nomination and the whole process of how nominations are charged is out of everyone's control. So instead of worrying about percentages, the best you can do is apply to all eligible sources.
     
  10. Just_A_Mom

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    Folks worry about statistics because they think it matters. They think they can extrapolate a meaningless statistic to suit their own specific case.
     
  11. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I believe hundreds of thousands of dollars are dedicated to surveying and reading into those statistics... they are indicators. I'm bottom 1% of my high school class.... I see no one at USNA is in the bottom 1% of their class.... I better have a back up.
     
  12. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    For most everyone, Service Academies aren't a "given" admission. It doesn't necessarily matter if you are in the bottom 1% or don't play varsity sports and have a perfect academic record. I don't know many people who have not applied elsewhere than just Service Academies (I'm sure there are some).
     
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  13. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I chose bottom 1% because that's as close to "never" as I could make. The point of my comment was to suggest that statistics DO matter, and that while a statistical analysis isn't cut and dry when it comes to admissions, it is an indicator.

    No, no admission is a "given" but statistically, if you are top 1%, have a 36 on your ACTs, etc etc etc, you're MORE LIKELY to be admitted than some one who is bottom 1%, got a 10 on his ACT, etc etc etc.
     
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  14. Just_A_Mom

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    Go back to the OP. None of the *statisitcs* available to him in his particular case matter.

    He is in a very special category - that of a child of a 100% disabled or deceased service member. None of the stats that were offered to him by a BGO matter in his case - that is assuming he is a qualified candidate.
     
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  15. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Mod delete
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    This thread has become merely argumentative. Please get it back on track or I'll have to close it.
     
  17. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Lock the thread. It's a typical progression when a certain poster posts. Many locked threads to show for that. This thread is done.
     

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