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Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by Moneyman, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. Moneyman

    Moneyman New Member

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    I was wondering if anyone with a similar profile has been offered an appointment?

    4 year wrestling letter winner
    3 time state medalist
    STUCO president
    DECCA member
    FBLA member
    3.5 GPA
    25 ACT - the only non-competitive score was reading (22)
    active church member
    received nomination from congressman
     
  2. Pima

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    Honestly, even if they did give you an apptmt., are you sure you want to do this?

    The avg cadet has an ACT in the 30's, college, not SA, but college is a time warp, and they are not going to slow the course down for you. Think about how you felt as freshman coming from middle school now amp that up 100%.

    25 composite with a 22, gives you at best 28 M, and still behind the median of 30 for an AFA cadet.

    Throw in lifestyle and this will be incredibly hard for you.

    Let's say they give you an apptmt., to me I would suggest to go Falcon first, and get accustomed to this lifestyle while getting the academic foundation under your belt.

    Curiosity where are you from?
     
  3. Moneyman

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    What's go Falcon first? Prep school? He definitely wants in and would like to wrestle for the team. He would rather go prep school but would like to get in anyway he can. We're from KC, MO. Coaching staff made it sound like it would be tough but said they hadn't lost an athlete because of academics yet.
     
  4. Pima

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    Falcon is their prep school for cadets that look like perfect matches, but need 1 more yr academically because their academic record is not on par with the incoming class.

    Get a 36 on the ACT and you will not be offered Falcon because they exist to get the PAR up for cadets.

    I have a feeling that the decision has been made if the offer comes down he will accept.

    Here is how I will place it to see my POV...if Harvard offered him a scholarship would he go there knowing without wrestling and just on academics that he would not be an academic match? Why not?

    The SAs are in the league of every IVY from an academic standpoint.

    Wrestling is only 1 part of the equation.
     
  5. futureAFA

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    Suppose he did get in because of wrestling. Then great he’s in, but what I think Pima was saying is that he needs to make sure he want to go to the academy not only to commission into the AF, and the lifestyle of a cadet at a SA (I’m assuming he does), but also because of the school. If he’s not a math kind of guy, or getting that 3.5 was constant work, just to make sure he truly wants to go to the academy. There are other ways to commission such as ROTC, that suit certain people much better. I remember talking to somebody who was in my CAP squadron then went to college and did ROTC, he came back to talk to us about it. I can remember him saying “not going to the academy was the best decision I’ve made in my life because I hate math.” He mentioned he had an appointment, but decided he would just not enjoy going there because it just wasn’t for him.

    Now thats not to say he may LOVE math, and sciences. Had a few rough classes such as foreign language that brought down his GPA, or something along those lines. Maybe the ACT was just a bad day, I don’t know. He could be an amazing fit there and thrive (and I hope he does).

    Sorry if I came off as negative, or doubting his ability. Just playing devils advocate.

    Congrats on the Nom!
     
  6. Pima

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    Forgot to add...

    Has he taken any AP/IB courses?

    Is the 3.5 wgpa or unweighted, what is his w, what is his uw?

    The reason why I ask is because the AFA will re-weight their gpa many times, so people throw out numbers like 3.5 but do not say if that is w or uw. You could have a 4.2 gpa and the AFA may re-weight it to 4.0, because it is a 5.0 scale, whereas another cadet could have 3.5 wgpa and they re-score you to a 3.8 because your AP scale is 4.25. It varies case by case.

    PAR is a whole view, including gpa, rank, SAT/ACT and course rigor. Maybe he just is a poor test taker so everything I have stated is null and void.

    However, if he has never taken an AP(3.5 gpa is uw) and his class rank is 50%, from a PAR stance than the ACT becomes a bigger player in the decision process.

    Does he have an LOA? In other words is he a recruited athlete and all he needed was the nom for the apptmt?

    BTW future is correct in what I was trying to imply!
     
  7. Moneyman

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    He has quite a few honors classes. I believe his weighted GPA is around 3.8 - 3.9. He was a recruited athlete but didn't get his application finished before they allocated all of their slots. His class rank is in the top 20%.
     
  8. fencersmother

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    Moneyman, remember that with the huge demands required of DIV I athletics, already tough academics and schedules become that much worse/harder.

    I would think the prep school would be the way to go, if offered. Good luck.
     
  9. Pima

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    So academically it looks like he is just a poor test taker. Everyone has bad test days, that is why with the new system people say take both and often, because 99.99% of schools superscore.
     
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    I will send you a PM.
     

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