Public Service Academy??

[Zaphod]

I'll rephrase.

It's not a good example to set for future service members to refer to the President contemptuously.

Where were you when the other place was infested with parents of just-graduated Midshipmen were posting DNC talking points about Bush?

 

[SteveHolt243]

I'm confused.

 

[Zaphod]

To move back to the OP, what do you think Plebe Year would look like at this place?

What would the PRT be?

"Alright ladies, gentlemen, and others, this will be your test of being able to carry a 3,000-page summary of the federal budget from one end of the Capitol to the other. No breaks, and the papers must arrive in the order they were given to you. Ready? GO!"

What would summer training be composed of?

What would the chow-calls be?

"Ladies and Gentlemen and those choosing an alternative lifestyle. You now have ten minutes until our noon communal meal. The menu is organic tofu, bean sprouts, cous-cous, peaches flambe, and double mocha latte with soy milk. The Commisioners of the Day are Archibald Hildegard Rothenstein III, Chief Bureaucracy Officer, Helga van Shtinkenfeet, Deputy Coordinator of Grievences, and Jose Manuel Antonio Melendez De Rios, Jr., Deputy Diversity Coordinator. Events on the Agenda are 3:30PM - a debate on whether Hiroshima was justified, 4:30 PM - free manicures for those in need, 5:30 PM - A lecture by noted Civil Rights icon Jeremiah Wright on the evils of hate speech from the pulpit, 8:30 PM - an all-hands pajama and pillow-fight party in the main court."

 

[Zaphod]

I'm confused.

My fault. It was a rhetorical question rather than one directed specifically at you.

Let's just say that not everyone agrees with your earlier post, and they most assuredly do not subscribe to my political beliefs. It caused all sorts of hell, one of the outcomes of which is this website.

 

[Zaphod]

^
especially their Commander in Chief.

From the Terms of Service, written by Zaphod.

NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH!

I'm no longer a member of the staff!

Also, where does it say "President" there, and where was all the outrage when Bush was hung in effigy by people carrying signs reading "We support or troops when they hang their officers!"

Believe me, madame, I'm being restrained in what I am saying about our beloved President right now. You really don't want to get me started.

 

[bruno]

NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH!



Believe me, madame, I'm being restrained in what I am saying about our beloved President right now. You really don't want to get me started.

Please don't ok? The original post about this Pub Service Academy proposal has enough meat to chew on as it is -or depending on your point of view -enough to choke on! ( I will leave you to guess where my take on this is) Let's just keep it on point.
Thanks

 

[Zaphod]

Hey! I'm the one asking what Plebe Year would be like, remember? I'm already back on topic! Get with the program!

 

[jscam87]

Z,
The Chow-Call was perfect. For those who did not attend USNA, it is a public recitation by Plebes, 3 times a day (really more like 15 times).
The remarkable thing about the Public Service Academy is that it was proposed and is lead by Hilary Clinton. The Same Clinton who as Senator TRIED to close USMMA, and proposed raising the Midshipman costs. She was practically booed on stage when speaking at USMMA. By-the-way, USMMA is IN NEW YORK!
If you have read any of the USPSA proposals, it is amazing. A large percentage of the admissions will be based on need and income. There will be no tuition, but no way to force public service after Graduation. A part of the training will be a study abroad program. It is a GREAT way for politicians to have an easier method of handing out scholarships, on the taxpayers' dime. The USPSA website HAD a blog feature, but the inputs were over 90% negative. Now, no public input allowed (I was proud to get a quick blast in, but now I can't prove it).
In this current SPEND,SPEND,SPEND era, we may get this shoved down our throats.
Anyone who thinks this or any of my inputs are fishy can turn me in at...

FLAGS@WHITEHOUSE.GOV

I have already turned in several fishy e-mails sent to me, mostly offers for Cialis, but also a recipe for Tilapia. I think the USPSA Proposal might make my list...
Fair Winds!

 

[Zaphod]

Anyone who thinks this or any of my inputs are fishy can turn me in at...

FLAGS@WHITEHOUSE.GOV

I have already turned in several fishy e-mails sent to me, mostly offers for Cialis, but also a recipe for Tilapia.

CHRIST, man! I'm at work!

I've got people looking into my office to see what I'm laughing my head off over!




Can you imagine what the Curriculum would be?

BS101: (That's Bureaucratic Sciences, BTW) Filling out forms in triplicate without breaking your pen
BS201: Making OTHERS fill out forms in triplicate.
HS101: How America is Wrong - A Historical Perspective
WA101: (War Avoidance): How to surrender quickly and effectively. Taught in French.

Etc...

 

[Maximus]

Maybe Barry plans on using the Public Service Academy graduates to fill his Civilian Security Force. Oh and by the way, those are not my words, those are Barry's words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

 

[Zaphod]

You know, maybe I WAS wrong. Maybe using Nazi symbolism wasn't right.

I should have used this instead:

Sorry.

As for the USPSA, I guess this is what the Brigade Staff official portrait would look like:

Remember, only angry right-wing extremists dress well.

 

[Just_A_Mom]

This is what I found:
The US PSA was actually founded by two Teach for America Alumni in the wake of Hurricane Katrina frustrated by the ineptitude of public officials.

Sure, then Sen Clinton endorsed the Academy but so did Mike Huckabee (remember him?).
I was also surprised to find that this is also endorsed by quite a few high ranking military officers including 3 former Superintendents from West Point.

Students will be chosen via a Congressional Nomination process, similiar to the "Big Three SA's" to ensure geographism.

Academy graduates will spend five years serving our nation by working in education, health care, law enforcement, emergency management, and other critical public sector fields at the local, state, and national levels. They will be placed in strategically important positions and geographic areas where they are needed most.

I suppose this can be enforced the same way USMMA grads are forced to work in the shipping industry or military.

That said - Aside from the looming budget deficeit, I can't really see the need. We have the best colleges in the world. Students have a wide variety from which to choose and the highest quality students have opportunties for excellent financial aid from the best schools. A poor kid pays nothing to go to Harvard or Stanford.

 

[Just_A_Mom]

hmmmm time to shut this down Bruno....
I guess the folks on this forum are not capable of any serious or intelligent discussion.

 

[Maximus]

hmmmm time to shut this down Bruno....
I guess the folks on this forum are not capable of any serious or intelligent discussion.

Go back and read my post again and watch Barry announce that he wants a Civilian Security Force just as strong and well funded as the Military and then tell me it's not serious and relevant.

 

[jscam87]

It may be time to shut this down, but I think the USPSA is getting exactly the seriousness that it deserves.
I spent hours researching this for another project and was dumbfounded by the weak reasoning and hyperbole to justify the creation. The expense is broken up to hide the start-up costs. Many of the supporters stand to gain a job and even career if this albatross takes flight.
And to try to get the respect of a Service Academy without any of the pesky burdens of a Service Academy is laughable.
I am proud of our Service Academies and what they accomplish. To propose adding/creating a SERVICE ACADEMY, and have it stand for nothing at great expense, diminshes the others. Which may be the point.
Don't take my word for this, please read the outline and proposal on the USPSA website. It is a long read, but will let you see how hundreds of millions of dollars can be spent with no point other than, "Public Service!".
I just don't have the artistic touch (or clip-art skills) to make my point more colorfully.
USPSA- Just say no...

 

[SteveHolt243]

Go back and listen to the whole speech, and put the clip in context. He was talking about expanding the Peace Corps, AmeriCorps, and foreign service, not some sinister civilian police force.

 

[Zaphod]

hmmmm time to shut this down Bruno....
I guess the folks on this forum are not capable of any serious or intelligent discussion.

Some topics don't deserve serious or intelligent discussion. They deserve outright contempt and ridicule.

USPSA is one of those.

 

[Zaphod]

The US PSA was actually founded by two Teach for America Alumni in the wake of Hurricane Katrina frustrated by the ineptitude of public officials.

But......... But..........

Wasn't Katrina entirely Bush's fault? Wasn't it him who used the Haliburton Hurricane Generator Mk 2 to create Katrina, and the Halliburton Hurricane Director Mk 4, Mod 3 to ensure it hit New Orleans because he was a racist?

I mean, that's what all the liberals were telling us. Do you mean they're actually looking at someone else to blame now? Wow!

I don't suppose the then-Mayor of New Orleans or the then-Governer of New Orleans (both inept liberal democrat hacks, but I repeat myself) would be included in the list of those "inept" officials, would they, or is that distinction only reserved for Republicans?

Don't leave out the now-convicted Congresscritter from the 9th ward, who diverted rescue resources in order to get to his home in the area and recover the bribe cash he had stashed in his freezer....

 

[goaliedad]

This is what I found:
The US PSA was actually founded by two Teach for America Alumni in the wake of Hurricane Katrina frustrated by the ineptitude of public officials.

Sure, then Sen Clinton endorsed the Academy but so did Mike Huckabee (remember him?).
I was also surprised to find that this is also endorsed by quite a few high ranking military officers including 3 former Superintendents from West Point.

Students will be chosen via a Congressional Nomination process, similiar to the "Big Three SA's" to ensure geographism.


I suppose this can be enforced the same way USMMA grads are forced to work in the shipping industry or military.

That said - Aside from the looming budget deficeit, I can't really see the need. We have the best colleges in the world. Students have a wide variety from which to choose and the highest quality students have opportunties for excellent financial aid from the best schools. A poor kid pays nothing to go to Harvard or Stanford.

Let me see here... MOCs nominate the scions of well-connected families to the PSA who in turn are guaranteed positions in policy making agencies. Sounds like a great opportunity to institutionalize the political inbreeding that causes the current mess we are in (political hacks doing policy making because they don't pay enough to the career professionals who don't want to deal with congressional interference).

Having a close relative who works for DoD in a reasonably high capacity (who incidentally rose up from a degree form a 3rd tier public), I've heard the stories about how various congressional representatives meddle in the policies of different agencies. Don't need to make it any easier for them.

Looks like a SA, but in reality is far different. Soldiers salute the chief executive. Bureaucrats salute many leaders.

 

[Zaphod]

Will their be a RBTC* track?






* Reserve Bureaucrat Training Corps