Qualified?

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  1. WP hopeful

    WP hopeful USMA 2015 appointee

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    Hi,
    I'm hoping to get into USMA (if you couldn't tell already by the username :wink:) and I'm curious too know what I'm up against. Exactly how qualified are my fellow West Point applicants, both physically and academically? I've read and understand that almost everyone was in some varsity sport, team captain, 1st in their class rank....
    Does everyone fall under the same category?

    As for sports, I've only lettered in Cheer for one year my junior year. I've also been on Varsity dance for two years, but I get the feeling that these sports aren't really...WP material, if you will hahah. I also have a solid GPA of 4.1 and got a 1980 on my SATs. I'm not sure on my class standing...although I'm fairly certain that it's a good rank.

    Thanks!

    P.S.
    As for the CFA, is there such a thing as minimum requirements? If so, what are they?
     
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  2. USMAalltheway

    USMAalltheway Member

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    Hey!

    I'm glad to hear of your interest in USMA. What year are you propective for-2014? Well, every cadet differs, some are big with sports,others academics, and even more others-EC's and leadership; and some are all around qualified. As for me, not big with sports, one year golf(cause they didnt offer it beforehand)one year basketball(terrible at sport), and 3 1/2 years of diving. I am not first in my class, many cadets are not, especially if they are from a big school. Usually though, they are atleast in the top 10% of the class rank. Like I believe right now, I have a 4.9(weighted) GPA and I'm something like top 3% for my class. If your class had 900 sutdents(as does mine),its kinda hard to be a valedictorian.:yllol: Taking it that your a girl those sports are good, SAT's are good,but keep retaking them,also try for the ACT.

    As for the CFA, there are no minimums stated, but the pass/fail grade is a minimum score of 250. Always try to do atleast one pull-up instead of the candance arm hang, for one P.U. is worth more than max time at the arm hang(whatever you call it). Try for the averages atleast, if not the max(I know its hard,its the thing I fear taking the most:smile:).Well thats all I have, hope that helps. Please take time to introduce yourself on the intro forums!

    USMAalltheway
     
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  3. vampsoul

    vampsoul Candidate

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    As a fellow applicant, my stats are: No varsity sport, but I'm a nationally ranked Taekwondo Champion, around 4.2 weighted GPA (3.67 unweighted), top 4% of my class, and 2140 SATs.
     
  4. TheKnight

    TheKnight Class of 2014

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    It sounds like you'll be fine. For me my GPA is 3.5 (unweighted) I got a 1990 on the SAT, 29 on the ACT and I am not in any varsity sport (although I am Lieutenant of the Sheriff's Department Explorer post at my station and will soon be Head Drill Instructor at our County's regional training center)....

    All in all, it sounds like you'll be fine. Physically, I'm pretty good except I have low upper body strength. I can do about 13 pull ups, but I really suck at pushups (I could probably only do 30)...I can get about 80 situps, and my running is fine ( 6:00 mile). So I'm fairly certain that I'm not as physically fit as others who are applying.
     
  5. WP hopeful

    WP hopeful USMA 2015 appointee

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    Thanks for all of your guys' inputs, it's great feedback.

    USMAalltheway - you said the minimum CFA score is 250? How does that work? If you could explain to me how the scoring process goes, I'd be grateful :)
     
  6. America's Finest

    America's Finest USMA Cadet

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    Your sports look good as well as your academics. The only thing you didn't mention was your leadership experience. That plays a role.

    There is a minimum for the CFA but I don't know what it is. I also suggest you don't find out and just try your best. Use the averages as the standard, you're trying to be above average so that is what you should go for. Practice the CFA so you know what you need to work on.
     
  7. USMAalltheway

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    WP Hopeful,

    Ahh, I must say I agree with America's Finest on it being better not to know and try for the best.

    Sorry to say, I am not sure how the scoring process goes, but minimum is 250 and max is.....I think 550 ,but not sure on this last number(someone correct me if I'm wrong). Each exercise is scored seperatly with points, but I'm not sure how many points each exercise score is worth. I still have yet to take, but when I do, I'll see if I can tell you a more in-depth answer.(But that wont be for a month:frown:)

    Just do your best and you'll be fine, your scores sound fine for a girl too! Remember to submit those apps in early!:thumb:

    Good Luck! USMAalltheway
     
  8. USMAalltheway

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    Hey knight!

    I'm in the opposite boat as you, I can do nearly the max on push-ups but bomb at pull-ups, any special way you do them? For push-ups, I just did 200 push-ups on odd days of the week, 150 push-ups on the even days(with one day of rest). I would usually do have in the morning, and half at night; but you can get faster results if you do them at once.

    Okay for the first set of 100 push-ups on odd days, what I did was do 1 set of 15 regular push-ups, rest for 30 secs,then 20 knee push-ups, rest for 30 again, then try to do atleast 10 if not the full 15 regular push-ups again. Then rest for 2 minutes. Then repeat. Put the difficulty where on the last set, you feel like you going to collapse on the fifth push-up.

    This helped my push-ups go from 8(literally!) to 67 in two minutes in five months! Hope that helps, good luck on the CFA, I lack on SAT scores for some reason, though ACT is fine.:smile:
     
  9. buff81

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    Huh?
    Her scores were for GPA and SAT, not CFA. So, girls academics are viewed differently than boys?!! You better be careful, you are walking on thin ice :shake:
     
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  10. USMAalltheway

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    :yllol::yllol:

    Sorry, I was looking at another forum and something stupid happened. Yah, just disregard that part of the post if you will.:biggrin:

    USMAalltheway
     
  11. buff81

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    I knew that you didn't mean it that way.
    I was just messin' with ya :biggrin:
     
  12. USMAalltheway

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    LOL Thanks!:shake: I definitely dont want to hurt anyones feelings.

    USMAalltheway
     

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