Question about the "qualified but no vacancy" letter

Hi folks!

Okay...maybe I can offer a little clarification...at least, I'll try.

First, the letters. Don't get too wrapped up in the wording. The only thing that really means anything is this: did it say you were "qualified but no openings" or "not qualified."

If found "not qualified" I'm sorry to say, that's it. If found "qualified but no openings" that means you did it all correctly, they just ran out of space. And this year, with the reduced class coming in, that's happening to a LOT of amazing candidates!

I have several that I fear for...last year, ALL of them would have appointments in hand by now. Today? Not one of them has an appointment in hand, or if they do, they've not called to tell me. So I'm like ALL the parents here: nervous, worried, etc. :eek:

Now...Prep School and Falcon Foundation.

Prep School...the "high end candidates" are mostly NOT going to be considered for this. The reasons have been posted time and again and I won't bore you. Rather, I'll say that the "high end candidates" are the ones that are usually looked at by the Falcon Foundation.

FF likes to find those candidates that are 3Q...reallly strong, but might be missing in just one small area; typically either the SAT or ACT. FYI...I was one of those back a few decades ago.

USAFA doesn't pick the FF folks, rather the FF does! Of course, I'm sure ("they" won't say) USAFA/RRS is there with the FF folks, making recommendations, helping select, etc. It's a group that is rather hard to learn much about; and they prefer it that way.

Anyway...I hope this helps.

Oh, one more thing. Someone mentioned that they thought since one set of SAT scores weren't as high as the ACT, that this could harm the candidate. NOT TRUE.

USAFA takes either/both scores...and does their "thing" with them. At the end, ONE of the tests will score higher points for the candidate and THAT is the test that will be used in computing the WCS. We ALO's can see on our webpage which is being used for the candidate's evaluation.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83


THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am so stressed right now but my DS is cool as a cucumber. He remains confident and I am trying to follow his lead but as a parent this is so hard. I just want my DS's dream to come true. Your information helps clarify things that I have been wondering about. Tomorrow is his 18th birthday and I pray he gets a BFE!
 
GiuseppeVerde there was no change in the online status before/after the "no vacancy" letter arrived. It still says Candidate/Complete. Good luck!
 
GiuseppeVerde there was no change in the online status before/after the "no vacancy" letter arrived. It still says Candidate/Complete. Good luck!

When I got my TWE last year, my online status remained the same all the way up until July when I started a new application. I think it does this because "technically" you're still in the running for an appointment even if you never get it.
 
Hi folks!

Okay...maybe I can offer a little clarification...at least, I'll try.

First, the letters. Don't get too wrapped up in the wording. The only thing that really means anything is this: did it say you were "qualified but no openings" or "not qualified."

If found "not qualified" I'm sorry to say, that's it. If found "qualified but no openings" that means you did it all correctly, they just ran out of space. And this year, with the reduced class coming in, that's happening to a LOT of amazing candidates!

I have several that I fear for...last year, ALL of them would have appointments in hand by now. Today? Not one of them has an appointment in hand, or if they do, they've not called to tell me. So I'm like ALL the parents here: nervous, worried, etc. :eek:

Now...Prep School and Falcon Foundation.

Prep School...the "high end candidates" are mostly NOT going to be considered for this. The reasons have been posted time and again and I won't bore you. Rather, I'll say that the "high end candidates" are the ones that are usually looked at by the Falcon Foundation.

FF likes to find those candidates that are 3Q...reallly strong, but might be missing in just one small area; typically either the SAT or ACT. FYI...I was one of those back a few decades ago.

USAFA doesn't pick the FF folks, rather the FF does! Of course, I'm sure ("they" won't say) USAFA/RRS is there with the FF folks, making recommendations, helping select, etc. It's a group that is rather hard to learn much about; and they prefer it that way.

Anyway...I hope this helps.

Oh, one more thing. Someone mentioned that they thought since one set of SAT scores weren't as high as the ACT, that this could harm the candidate. NOT TRUE.

USAFA takes either/both scores...and does their "thing" with them. At the end, ONE of the tests will score higher points for the candidate and THAT is the test that will be used in computing the WCS. We ALO's can see on our webpage which is being used for the candidate's evaluation.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83

Thank you for this information, but I have another question! I hope I don't sound like I am beating a dead horse :confused:, but you mentioned the wording "not qualified." DS's letter said "not competetive." Is that what you are referring to? I would like to know if that is what you meant or not, as I would like to know if he may be in the running for prep school yet (or if he is totally out of the picture at this point). I think DS had an otherwise good app, but lowish SAT scores, and that is why I would like to know. Thanks!
 
DS's letter said "not competetive." Is that what you are referring to? I would like to know if that is what you meant or not, as I would like to know if he may be in the running for prep school yet (or if he is totally out of the picture at this point).

Same here!! I asked the same question in another thread (or two) and still don't have an answer. Can anyone shed light?
 
Thank you for this information, but I have another question! I hope I don't sound like I am beating a dead horse :confused:, but you mentioned the wording "not qualified." DS's letter said "not competetive." Is that what you are referring to? I would like to know if that is what you meant or not, as I would like to know if he may be in the running for prep school yet (or if he is totally out of the picture at this point). I think DS had an otherwise good app, but lowish SAT scores, and that is why I would like to know. Thanks!

Yes, that's what I meant. I haven't seen the letter this year and was going by memory.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
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