Question: LOR for Vice President nomination

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  1. Delta

    Delta Member

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    Hello everyone,

    If anyone knows about Vice President nomination, please let me know.

    On Vice-Presidential Military Academy Nomination site:
    It is written as:

    >>> Letters of Recommendation:
    >>> Please send all letters of recommendation directly to the Military Academies.

    Question is, we already sent all letters of recommendation
    through SCHOOL OFFICIAL EVALUATIONS(SOE).
    Do we need to send additional three LOR for Vice President nomination to Academy?
    Basically, it will be the same letters.
    Any idea?

    Thanks in advance,
     
  2. Hooah1775

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    Delta - I think the VP LOR is not the same as SOE's. The SOE is for the teachers and is a spectrum of "Stongly Disagree" to "Strongly Agree" which is not the same as a formal, written LOR. The LOR's for the VP would be the same or similar to the LOR's you will need for Congressman and Senators. Most recommend at least 3 LOR's, but you need to look at their specific guidlines for Nomination Applicatoins.

    Hope that helps to clarify the LOR's!
     
  3. Delta

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    Thanks for answer

    Hooah,
    Thank you so much for your comment.
     
  4. hawk

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    From memory, we were able to use the same letters of recommendation for the VP nom process as for our congressional members.

    It was different than the LOR's required by USMA admissions from the guidance counselor & teachers.

    One of our senators did require a letter from the school's principle or administrator, so your local process may vary.

    You'll want to hit the websites and nail down what you'll need for each of the senators, representative, and VP. Or pick up apps at academy days's, call the office, etc.

    Some requirements will be the same and can be used for all nom apps, others will be unique. Then line those people up. Though the nom process starts later you don't want to be scrambling to get the LOR's.

    Likewise, go ahead and request as many transcripts as you'll need, along with a couple of spares. You can have the school put them in a sealed envelope and send them to admissions/MOC as needed yourself. That way you don't bug your counselor, and you know the paperwork has been sent! Might as well get some for your backup schools at the same time, though lately more schools have been moving to electronic submission.
     
  5. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    I believe West Point will use your West Point application to create an order of merit list and send that to the Vice-President's office. Besides actually applying for the nomination, there shouldn't be much else to do. I think the working on the VP Nom page says LOR because not every academy has SOEs so they are general in terminology. Buff81 might be able to clear this up.
     
  6. buff81

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    Actually - it's the opposite, sort of.
    The VP office sends WP the list of names that have applied for the VP nomination and WP picks the 10 candidates that get the noms.
    This is why you send your LORs to WP and not the VP.
    These most always go to LOA recipients that didn't get a nom otherwise.

    Other posters in this thread have explained this well - but just to reiterate:

    SOEs and LORs are not the same.

    A SOE (Statement of Evaluation) is what WP requires as part of your application to WP. It requires specific teachers to give this (English, Math and Physics/Chemistry teacher). It is an on-line form that your requested teachers fill out and return electronically.

    A LOR (Letter of Recommendation) is what the VP and your MOCs request as part of your application to them for a nomination.
    These are usually from a family friend, pastor, employer, school counselor, teacher, etc. Someone that knows you well. It is not an on-line form like the SOE, but a written statement by the people that you request one from.
    You need to go on the VP site and each MOC site and confirm their requirements for the LORs. Some may have a specific person(s) that they want a LOR from. Some won't specify.

    As suggested - you need to be pretty organized about this.
    You have the WP application and all the steps involved in that and then at a minimum - applying for 4 nominations (and maybe more if qualified for more).
    Then there is DoDMERB if they require any remedial information.
    Deadlines are attached to all of these.
    Use Spreadsheets, file folders, etc - whatever helps you to keep organized and not let any details and deadlines slip through the cracks.
     
  7. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    Just to clarify - the VP nomination request does not require any Letter(s) of Recommendation. They ask that all LORs be sent to the academy.
     
  8. BillSL

    BillSL USMA Class of 2016

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    I was wondering:

    I was told that sending in any extra LORs have almost no value at all (if at all) on the WP Admissions process. Do you believe is has an effect sending LORs to VP competition?
     
  9. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    No, because the VP will nominate whomever WP tells them to nominate.
     
  10. BillSL

    BillSL USMA Class of 2016

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    Well yes. But what I mean is - extra LORs do not affect your WP application. Do you think extra LORs (sent to WP) affect if WP will choose you to get a VP nomination at all? Or is it just like the Academy process, in which it does not matter?
     
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    Ahhh! What is WP? What are SOE?
     
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