Questions regarding BGOs

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  1. 2Steaktacos

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    I have some questions for the BGOs and anyone else with recent operational knowledge:

    *Do BGOs know if your application is about to go in front of an admissions board?

    *Do BGOs know if your application has gone in front of an admissions board?

    *Do BGOs know the results of your application after it has gone in front of an admissions board?

    *Do BGOs know if you are being considered an LOA or Appointment?

    *Do BGOs know if you are granted an LOA or Appointment?

    *what information are BGOs allowed/not allowed to share with applicants?

    Thank you for your time.
     
  2. time2

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    No.

    At some point, yes. However, no necessarily right after it happens. Also, some records are deferred by the Board and the BGO typically wouldn't know this.

    Same answer as the above. At some point, your record will be updated in our system. Honestly, sometimes it's in Sept. and sometimes in late March (literally).

    Everyone who is tripled Q'ed with a nom is considered for an appointment. No on the LOA -- we have no idea whatsoever.

    Yes, but you'll know first.

    There is VERY little we know that you don't. In some cases, we may be told a FEW DAYS in advance that a turndown is "pending." However, that decision is subject to review before it's finalized and we are asked not to inform candidates until the official notification has gone out so as not to tell someone he/she has been turned down only to have the decision reversed. In most cases, these are people who get the word in April. And, honestly, if you haven't received good news by April 1, your chances of getting good news are relatively small (a small number do; most do not).
     
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    @usna1985, thank you VERY much, I also appreciated the format of your answers-it made the answers easy to follow. Thank you
     
  6. Candidad

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    2Steak:

    I guess I have recent operational knowledge for one candidate. This is NOT intended to dispute our super moderator, who has direct knowledge, but it shows that there are no uniform answers to anything about the application process at any particular point in that process. I hope I'm not getting an anonymous BGO in any trouble, but the answers for one single case (a current 4/C MIDN) are provided below.

    Be adaptive, be patient, be yourself and good luck. Hope to see you on the Yard someday. (If that's what you want of course.)
     
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    Every BGO may not work exactly the same way. Also, in some years admissions MAY decide to publish a 3Q letter, while in other years they do not. Your assigned BGO has no control over many of those things. That is part of the reason why the GENERAL information in the BGO stickie above is a great place to start.

    There are some VERY specific questions that we may not be able to answer since it depends on how admissions chooses to do things this year. That is just the reality of the process.
     
  8. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Your BGO does know what elements of your package have or have not been submitted -- as do the candidates themselves. The BGO WAS "speculating" that the record would have gone before the Board in "August." What he/she was saying is that your son's record was otherwise complete in August and, had the teacher rec been complete, it could have gone to the Board as early as August. There is one (sometimes zero) Board meeting in August and not all complete records go before the Board at that first meeting. It is not necessarily a FIFO (first in/first out) approach.

    Some BGOs are very proactive in terms of calling Admissions about one or more candidates. Thus, in some circumstances, the BGO may get a bit of extra knowledge.

    There are over 3500 BGOs. Some have one candidate per year; others have more than 40 candidates. Some work full-time; others have more "free time" on their hands. So, even BGOs who are very active in terms of interviewing and counseling candidates may not be on the phone with Admissions all the time.

    And, honestly, Admissions can't have every BGO calling about every candidate or chaos would ensue. (As an aside, I can't say whether the above poster's BGO called Admissions -- but please don't everyone ask your BGO to do so for the reasons stated above. It won't change the outcome and will definitely annoy the Admissions folks.)
     
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