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  1. cdh50193

    cdh50193 Member

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    I have received around 5 envelopes in a mail from WP without any directions. However, I'm guessing that I should mail them my transcripts and recommendations, is that correct?

    And in my portal, "Request for academic information form not received". Can someone tell me what that specifically is for? So if I put my guidance counselor's info, and they'll contact my guidance for the steps, or do I give an envelope to my guidance counselor so she can mail it with my transcripts?

    Same for my CAR and SOEs

    Sorry about my confusion.
     
  2. njdos92

    njdos92 Buckeye Battalion Cadet

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    There should be a letter indicating what the envelopes are for.

    The "Request for academic information form not received", that is for your guidance counselor. You input her contact information and West Point will send an email to her with instructions. The icon will not change to green until a paper copy is received. It will be yellow when the email has been sent and is waiting to receive your transcripts.

    The CAR and SOEs are all submitted online by your guidance counselor and your teachers.

    Make sure you let each person know that they will be receiving an email from West Point.
     
  3. Grannie

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    I am astonished that this is the second time I've seen this question in recent weeks so this answer is not aimed directly at you but also others. At the risk of sounding mean, have you bothered to read the instructional documents provided on the portal that will guide you through the process? This is a really grown-up world you are applying to enter with reading and following instructions vital to the survival (literally) of yourself and others. They won't spoon-feed you.

    Now pay attention here. Admissions at West Point leave virtually no question unanswered in these documents. If you would take the time to carefully read the booklets (.pdf files) you will see there are a number of documents that must be submitted (e.g., birth certificate, financial documents, background check from your local police department, etc.) by hard copy and mailed to West Point Admissions. Frankly, if you don't double up and send some documents together, those five wonderful envelopes you have won't accomodate what you are required to send. And, if you cannot decipher the content/request, contact Admissions by phone or email. The single response you have to this post at this point in time is from a fellow candidate that doesn't know any more than you do. Be very careful of the validity of the source of the advice you act upon.

    Another heads-up to everyone. Think before you post here. Do you honestly believe that admission staff of West Point and other academies don't take a look at these postings? I've seen some outlandish postings by candidates made here and within a few weeks, they post again and are crying in their root beer about receiving a rejection letter or their candidate file being closed by West Point. My advice is to always be truthful and not exagerate your credentials and most of all. . .Think, think, think about what you are saying and how it will be perceived.
     
  4. Doctor D

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    Great post Grannie and all true. If you cannot read or follow the written directions how do you possibilly expect to make it at WP. Yes boys and girls everything you receive from WP has very explicite directions. The first thing they teach you at WP is, you have to learn to follow before you can lead. If you cannot follow the directions before you get in, how do you expect to make it if you get accepted?

    Here are couple of more things that I am amazed at when reading these post. I see post that give your CFA scores and the question, how do I look? If you can read, they give you the parameters (the goals) forthe test. They do not give you what is passing but what's the question? if you meet the goals set forth in their instructions you passed. If you come close you passed.

    Another great question that you see here all the time. You give your GPA, the 20 clubs you belong to, SAT scores, all the charitys you volunteer for and the list goes on and then the question. How do I look? If you have done all these great things, why do you have to ask. There is no majic genie on this forum that can tell you, just opinions. You have to have more than a great GPA and belonging to several organizations in school and volunteer work. There were a number of qualified candates that did not get into WP this year and several 4.0.

    While getting in is certainly not easy, the hard part come's when you get there. Just wait till a cadre two years older than you is screaming at you and then wakes your squad up and you go for a six mile ruck march in the rain with a 40 pound back pack on your back carrying your rifle, or you are doing land nav in the middle of the night and its pouring down rain or PT in one hundred dregree heat.

    However with all of this said and while the task is daunting it is worth it. There is no other place in the world that I would rather have my son than West Point.
     
  5. M2inOR

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    I'll take a slightly different approach.

    At one of the regional USMA sessions held out here in Oregon, the admissions representative advised the potential applicants to read everything carefully. The entire admission and application process is intentionally detailed and is purposely complex to act as a screen.

    There are no trick questions.

    Instead, there is the advice to read everything provided by West Point and the USMA admissions website, and to provide all the info requested.

    If there are questions, the admissions staff is available by phone, by email, and via the "Contact Us" link on the candidate portal. They are the official answer.

    There is a wealth of information here on the forums, but in the end the applicant must still provide or initiate the responses to the application.

    Do your very best, and you will advance further in the process. And do enlist your parents or guardian, and your local MALO and admissions rep to assist you.

    And if your very best meets the requirements of the USMA, you too may receive an appointment and join the next class.
     
  6. tiki

    tiki USMA 2015 Appointee

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    I hope I do not come off as being completely dense here, but I am kind of with the original poster on this one.

    The paper I received with my packet of envelopes only stated regarding the envelopes: "Enclosed are several envelopes for mailing the "Request for Transcripts" and the "Employer's Evaluation of Candidate," if needed."
    So I understand I must give one to my guidance counselor for transcripts, but I couldn't find anything (even in the .pdf files) regarding sending in birth certificates, etc.

    ***Edit: Nevermind, I took a look back at another post regarding the envelopes and some of the posters there said that most of their envelopes were used AFTER they received an appointment. So, it is my understanding that many of the requests for birth certificates, etc, will come only after receiving an appointment?
    Sorry for the confusion and I hope this clears up the questions of the original poster.
     
  7. Peter

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    Yes, those five envelopes are meant for candidates who have received their appointments. For the time being, just keep the grey envelopes.
     
  8. tiki

    tiki USMA 2015 Appointee

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    Great, thank you!
     
  9. Iwheel

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    Well, we used those envelopes for mailing everything needed for DS's application. That worked fine, never lost a thing.

    Don't worry, if they are interested in you, when you get additional mails you will get more envelopes, more than you need. They did send more than we needed, quite a few more.

    After you are appointed, you receive more envelopes to send in other stuff, i.e. Birth-cert, Police report, etc. That is later. The envelopes you received are for you to use now, don't save them for later.

    They are not really dedicated unless it says so on the envelope.
    :thumb:
     

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