R-day Weight

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  1. swabster5050

    swabster5050 New Member

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    I'm reading as much as possible preparing for my R-Day next week, and came across this from the Scholars handbook. "Anyone outside of weight standards at the beginning of Summer Orientation will not be allowed to continue with the enlistment process or the Scholar Program, costs associated with your return home should you not be permitted to continue with the program are not funded by the Coast Guard. Anyone outside of weight standards at the conclusion of their prep year will not receive an appointment to the Coast Guard Academy."

    I'm hoping for some clarification if this is true on for R-day as well. I am currently in compliance. I've been working with a trainer for the past 3 months on upper body strength. I am 5-10 and 188 pounds. My concern is this. Between sports physicals, doctors visits ect...I've been measured at b/w 5-9 and 5-10.25 in the past year. If I get there and measure under 5-9.5 then my max weight is 185. Also, I was hoping to seriously hydrate the next 4 days in prep for the work ahead. I'm concerned that if I do that, and have a nice breakfast on R-Day that I could be over 190 minimum.

    My main question is, if i'm 2-3 pounds over the max weight for someone measuring 5-9 what happens?
     
  2. grevar

    grevar CGA Admissions Partner

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    It is true that there are incoming Swabs that are sent home for being over the weight limit. Suggest you are well within the weight limit by Monday.
     
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    swabster5050 New Member

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    Thank you for confirming. Is there anything other than ht/wt that goes into it? I'm looking to tryout for football, and play linebacker. My build is pretty stout.
     
  4. NavyHoops

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    grevar, if someone is outside the height and weight limits is a body fat measurement used?
     
  5. AuxNoob

    AuxNoob CGA Admissions Partner

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    My Swab was too nervous to eat breakfast on R-Day. A not uncommon behavior, so I've heard. What Grevar said is true. If you don't make weight, you are sent home. If you are obviously muscular, consult a coach, if you are meeting with them prior to R-Day (or email), or have been recruited. They may, I say again may, tape you. I don't know if this is allowable for CGA, but does sometimes occur on the Active Duty side. However, recruiters generally won't ship to Cape May anyone who isn't 5lb under weight.
     
  6. swabster5050

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    can't imagine being sent home for missing weight. i'm glad i read that this week....wish i did a few weeks ago but i'll be fine. I was focused on upper body and building strength for the PFE and football, in addition to running.

    is there an official policy other than needs to meet height/weight standards? I have read things about about body fat content, about being taped and your build effecting your weight. Just would like something that me or others could know.
     
  7. AuxNoob

    AuxNoob CGA Admissions Partner

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    I do not know what the official policy is, and whether taping is done for Swabs. I do know a cadet that was dis-enrolled at Thanksgiving of his 1/c year because he was over weight.
     
  8. CoastiePilot

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    Not sure how R-Day works, but once you get into the mainstream Coast Guard, you are measured first off of BMI and if you exceed your max weight, you are taped to check to see if you are within body fat limits. If you exceed that, you have a certain timeframe (I believe 6 months) to get into compliance.

    From what I recall, there is little to no tolerance during R-Day....certainly not the 6 months the rest of us get.
     
  9. Blessedmom

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    I really hope USCGA first conducts a BMI test on the kid before they ship the poor kid home for being few lbs overweight?
     
  10. Objee

    Objee USCGA Admissions

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    In accordance with the Coast Guard Weight and Body Fat Standards Program Manual, incoming cadets must be EITHER under their maximum allowable weight (based on height) OR under 22% body fat for men or 32% body fat for women.
     
  11. TennisDad

    TennisDad CGA Admissions Partner

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    Appointees get sent home early on R-Day for not meeting the weight requirements. Unfortunately, those are slots that end up being wasted. So please remember: they are not "guidelines," they are requirements. "Oh, they'll let me slide. I'm only a few pounds over" is not going to cut it. If you aren't serious about meeting those requirements, please let the Academy know at least 3-4 weeks before R-Day.
     
  12. EastCoastBB

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    Tennis Dad nails it, once R-Day starts there are no further additions to the class. To the 6 kids who dropped out, or didn't show....it's awful that 6 other candidates didn't get a chance to fill their shoes. I'm sure they had their reasons, but I would love to know what happened.
    Also to show up over 22% bodyfat is pretty out of shape for most 18 year olds men.
     
  13. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    For the 6 that didn't get the selection, had they done better in the years before they applied, they might not be on the outside looking in.

    The "they used up a spot" doesn't work for me. Classes HAVE to lose cadets.

    We had two classmates show up a day or two late (not their fault, just late notice and extended travel from far off lands).
     
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    TennisDad CGA Admissions Partner

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    LITS - what I think EastCoastBB is referring to are the ones who accepted an appointment but then dropped out in the days leading up to R-Day: too late for admissions to get someone in off the wait list at that point. On Sunday there were 305 - then one dropped out early Monday morning and never turned up for R-Day.
     
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    He's aware of this, as are the SAs. It's really the difference between understanding how a population behaves, such as the population entering on any given R-day/I-day, and how individuals in that population behave. The SAs know from experience and from models how many people are going to: not show up, show up with medical DQs or alcohol on their breath or outside of height/weight/body fat standards. They know that there is just no way that the behavior of every individual in that population is predictable. I know it SEEMS like "oh that kid who was over weight standard" or "that kid who didn't show up" are taking places away from other candidates, but it really isn't so.

    I know that's hard for people to wrap their minds around, but it really is true.
     
  16. EastCoastBB

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    I get that, I guess I was just feeling bad for kids who didn't even get to start the process. I get it, the statistics and forecasting say "x" amount won't show or will show up too heavy or medically DQ'd. So they had those spots already accounted for in the 310, knowing that somewhere around 5 kids probably won't be able to even start training. If nobody ever dropped then they would only admit as many as they needed, but they overadmit knowing things will cause people to leave.

    Still, why accept an appointment and not show? That mentality I don't get, too heavy or trying to slide in withholding medical I kind of get. But not even show up, and not notify the USCGA...just crazy

    My swab is there and was a late waitlist appointment. They hopefully swabbing along just fine.
     
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