Recent Campus Visit Takeaways - Army

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  1. paradoxer

    paradoxer Member

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    Some anecdotal observations as we visited same campus spring 2010 and spring 2011 and discovered that:

    Campus based scholarships were 8 in 2010 and 0 in 2011 (at this point)

    Most awarded upper classmen would not qualify today for scholarships

    Cross town campuses are at a greater disadvantage under present funding as trickle down scholarships/funding is rare

    Continued personal contact with ROO's still encouraged as they have own OML even with national awards primary

    Opportunities exist for participation during senior year visits: attending class, training, overnights - don't be afraid to ask to participate

    ROO equally mystified why physicals would be requested before scholarship awarded (why not use that money for more scholarships?)

    Second visits are worth the cost and energy when considering this 4 year commitment
     
  2. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    AMEN...you weren't at Clarkson last weekend, we're you??
     
  3. paradoxer

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    Close as I could get

    Was meeting someone from Ft Drum. Said he won't be reassigned anytime soon since no one wants that assignment. DS thought it would be a nice cold weather, plenty of hockey to be watched/played place.
     
  4. Jcleppe

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    Great Post

    We took our son to the University he has selected last week. It was an orientation and a chance to register for Fall classes. He was excited to get is College ID card.

    We met with the PMS, ROO, and other Cadre while we were on campus. They indicated much the same information.

    At that time they had only 2 Scholarship winners, they are hoping for more from this board but were not optomistic. The PMS told us that with all the budget issues, that have finally been passed down to them, they don't expect everything to shake out until sometime during the summer in regards to any campus scholarships.

    They did mention that they expect a lot more 3 year scholarships if they receive any more at all.

    I very much agree that visits and contact with the school you plan on attending is very important. The ROO said that if they get the opportunity to offer campus scholarships they may be 3 year. Getting yourself known by face and name early will help. One piece of advise they gave was when you show up in the Fall very fit and pass your PT test with high numbers.

    They talked a bit about the upperclassmen and if they would have been competitive today. They said about 40% may have been on the bubble this year. What was surprising to me was this, they said that a high percentage of the applicants from 3 and 4 years ago that had amazing stats and were first round picks have either left the program or are below the average mark on the campus OML. Most of the cadets that would be on the bubble today are at the top of the class OML. His comment was "The perception of anticipated success often runs contrary when met with reality"

    You are right, just ask them to participate. My son went to PT, sat in on a MS class and went to a planning and stratagy meeting for an upcomming FTX, it was great look at what's to come.

    One other thing, the PMS and other Cadre members you have had contact with may not be there next year. They seem to rotate out about every 2 years. The 2 LtCol's my son has talked to the past year and a half are both leaving at the end of this school year, it will be a fresh start with a new PMS.

    Good luck to all those still waiting to hear some news. If you are not offered a scholarship on this board make sure you contact your schools and talk to the ROO's right away. Keep in constant contact, let them know how serious you are, you want to be at the top of their radar if a campus scholarship should come available. I nothing happens over the summer, show up to school prepared on day one, sign up for MS classes, don't miss a class, PT, lab, or any other ROTC activity. Show them you are committed, make the decision an easy one for them.
     

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