Recruiter or Campus? (College)

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  1. jtan23

    jtan23 New Member

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    Hi, It's my 2nd post.

    I have a quick question. If I go to college. Who do i talk to about the ROTC program and about the ROTC scholarship? Do i talk to a recruiter or visit the campus and talk to the instructor of the program?
     
  2. kinnem

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    Either, or preferably both. You may not learn much different from each of them other than the unit at the college can shed more light on the specifics of their unit. Even so its good to talk to both. Building a relationship with the local recruiter might be beneficial when you need some immediate assistance with the application or what have you. Same with building a relationship with the unit over the longer term.

    As you're a senior you need to get on the ball on this. Time is actually running out for you. That's not to say you can't win a scholarship but your competition is already way ahead of you on getting their applications done, setting up or completing interviews, getting fitness tests completed, etc. The published deadlines for the applications are really the "drop-dead" date, your last chance to apply and get a scholarship. The scholarship process opened this past spring. Good luck! :thumb:
     
  3. Jcleppe

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    For AROTC each battalion has a Recriuting Officer (ROO) This is the person you will want to speak with first. You can look up the AROTC Battalion's website at the college you are going to visit, look at the list of Cadre Members, the list should include the name of the Recruiting Officer, contact them and make an appointment.

    Don't bother talking to a local Army Recruiter, they really have no experience with AROTC and will do their best to try and get you to enlist first. Go directly to the AROTC Battalion and talk with the Recruiting Officer. While your there you may get the opportunity to talk with other Cadre members such as the PMS (Professor of Military Science).

    If you decide to take a look at NROTC then follow the advice Kinnem gave you.

    Kinnem is right, you need to get the ball rolling quiclky.
     
  4. kinnem

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    Thanks for straightening me out jcleppe. Who knew an Army recruiter would try to actually recruit you when you asked about AROTC? :rolleyes:
     
  5. Jcleppe

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    My older son made the mistake of talking with a local recruiter before filling out is Scholarship application. For the next 9 months the recruiter was relentless in his efforts to get him to enlist, even after he had been awarded the scholarship. The night before he was leaving for the start of his freshman year the recruiter called and tried to talk him out of starting school and talk him into enlisting. It had become a game of sorts to see how many times a month he would call. This was back in 2007, now perspective enlistees can barely get a call back, how times have changed.

    Younger son did not make that mistake.
     
  6. dunninla

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    Two years ago Daughter started by talking to a local recruiter rather than to an ROTC recruiter. Not much pressure, but not much help either. For some reason he administered a quick intelligence test for the first 20 minutes or so. No harm, no foul. She is currently a contracted, 3 yr. AD scholarship cadet.

    Related to this... if a person decides they want to enlist and to do the SMP program, do they arrange that through the ROTC recruiter, the local Recruiter, or both?
     
  7. Aglahad

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    For SMP I would just got through the ROO, most recruiters barely know what SMP is.

    "I have a quick question. If I go to college. Who do i talk to about the ROTC program and about the ROTC scholarship? Do i talk to a recruiter or visit the campus and talk to the instructor of the program?"

    Jtan,

    As I said in our conversation, nothing matters until you become a citizen. They will just turn you away and say try again later.
     
  8. Jcleppe

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    Well that was an important piece of information that was left out of the original post, would have saved a lot of writing.
     
  9. Packer

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    Yep, last year my son had lots of recruiter calls. They can be pretty persistent.
     
  10. jtan23

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    So basically I can't do the application for the scholarship? My parents already sent the mail for my Citizenship. They said it takes 4 months. So I can't really do anything with the ROTC scholarship?

    Even without the scholarship can i still join the ROTC program? and Can I sign up the ROTC scholarship later when I get my citizenship?
     
  11. Aglahad

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    Since ROTC is open to anyone for the first two years I the program I don't see why you couldn't join then battalion.

    It's applying not signing up for the scholarship. Nursing slots are getting slashed by the army at a steady rate and the nursing scholarship is conditional, meaning that if your pre nursing grades aren't good enough and the school of nursing rejects you ( we had 350 apply for 80 slots my year) you could easily lose that full ride. Nothing is guaranteed.
     
  12. VB DAD

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    Dear jtan23,
    I do encourage you to file a scholarship application, check dates and see how late you can leave it to apply. You are correct in saying that your N600 will take 4-5 Months to process from the date you send it. The N600 is not to be confused with the N400 (Naturalization) for readers of this post. A friend of ours went through the same problem; don’t despair people are all too ready to assist you in your quest to become an Officer. Our friend filed an N600 and made a phone inquiry at USCIS after 3 months, they informed them of her wish to apply for an Army ROTC Scholarship and were in need of proof of Citizenship, they handed it to her in 48hours, maybe the agent was ex-ROTC with a kindly heart.
    Our friend’s daughter did not take her Citizenship certificate to her PMS interview, but remembered everything else. The PMS said that wasn't a problem and she scored the max. It was pointed out to her that when you attend school that proof of Citizenship and SS card were a must to contract, no leeway.
    Your most important task after you receive your certificate is change your status with the Social Security Admiration, which I didn't think of, but everything seems to revolve around them, DHS, FASA, etc.
    Good luck.
     
  13. jtan23

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    Thank you,

    I'm going to visit the battalion this weekend. I live in Florida. The ROTC school is FIU (Florida International University), The only question left, Is that can I apply the scholarship around march? I forgot the dates for the board. Or should i just go to FIU then take my pre nursing classes for the 2013 fall. Then if i could apply for the 2014 scholarship?
     
  14. dunninla

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    Oh my, that's now the second really important, critical piece of information that has emerged in your subsequent posts!

    Nursing is a completely different set of circumstances. Aglahad will need to respond as he is on an AROTC Nursing Scholarship. There are other ways aside from a National High School Scholarship to get help for your tuition and also become an Officer if Nursing is your major
     
  15. jtan23

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    Wait, there's ARMY NURSING SCHOLARSHIP? what is the difference between the AROTC scholarship and the NURSING scholarship?
    Yes, I am going to major on Nursing.

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    3.6 GPA
    Currently in NJROTC (3 years) (MA)
    Italian Honors Society
    Played JV basketball for 2 years
    Haven't taken ACT or SAT
    6 Honors classes
    2 Internship class( intern in a hospital)
     
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  16. Aglahad

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    They are essentially two separate pools of money: Line and nursing. The nursing scholarship is a lot easier to obtain BUT the catch is you have to get into the school of nursing or you can easily lose it. This is sometimes very difficult when you are competing for a few slots with a people at your university plus a large amount of CC transfers. As I said before we had around 350 people apply for 80 slots. I got my scholarship from an on-campus pool of money so I don't know the process for the national application, but I assume it isn't much different than the line as long as you distinguish that you are in fact intending to go pre-nursing.
     
  17. Pima

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    Curious jtan why have you not taken the ACT or SAT yet? You are a SR in HS (fall 2013 admittance), leave scholarship issues alone, colleges require this for admission. When do you plan to take these tests?

    ACT/SAT scores are part of not only the scholarship process, but also for college admissions. You need to take these tests now. I am not 1000% sure, but I am pretty sure, no SAT/ACT score no meeting a board...ROTC or college.
     
  18. jtan23

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    I'm taking them this OCT and NOV and DEC. blahh, i have so much things to do :(
     
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    Applying for college can be a tedious, time-consuming, and stressful process. Add in ROTC and you really have a load to carry. Don't let it get you down. Just keep looking at the light at the end of the tunnel and hope to hell it's not a train! :biggrin: Actually, just think of the rewards on the other side of the process. Whatever works out was meant to be and will no doubt be just right for you. Hang tough! If you do get into ROTC you will realize that this is just the beginning of the stress (although somewhat different) and you will see that this was just the beginning of the training. Keep at it soldier! :thumb:
     

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