Redistricting and Nominations

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  1. kpmom2013

    kpmom2013 Member

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    Our state has gained an additional congressional district and we are right in the middle of it. Our current MOC does not have any answers, so I am wondering if anyone has any experience similar to ours. How can 2017 prospects apply for a nomination in a congressional district that is not yet filled and has no staff?
     
  2. Blackbird

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    Wow kpmom this seems like a tough one.

    From The Washington State Redistricting Commission:

    "Which district do current legislators represent once the plan is final?
    For now, legislators and congressional members will continue to represent their current districts (as adopted in 2002). Following this year’s General Election (November 6th) current legislators will immediately begin to represent their new districts. Newly elected legislators will begin representing their districts on the first day of the 2013 session."

    There doesn't appear to be a nominating source for the new districts until the newly elected legislators start in 2013 which is obviously too late for SA nominations. Other states will have the same issue. Perhaps once the 2016 admissions cycle is complete, you all can contact a SA counselor.
     
  3. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    If the nomination in question is for USMMA, Congressional boundaries don't matter as (different from the DOD academies) the boundary is the state in which the district lies, not the district itself.

    In other words, you can apply for a KP nom from any representative in your state as well as the two US senators.
     
  4. Blackbird

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    Nice. I had no idea. Our experience is with the DOD academies. Is there a maximum number of nominations to USMMA for each state?
     
  5. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I'm not exactly following the OP's question.

    If the district currently exists, there must be a MOC to fill it. If the district is newly created and WILL exist after the November elections, then it doesn't yet exist. That means the new MOC who fills that district won't take office until January 2013. Thus, you apply to the current MOCs in the current districts.

    It's the same as "what happens if my MOC is defeated in November?"

    Because slates are due Jan. 31, in virtually all cases, the current/sitting MOC submits his/her slate of nominees before leaving office around Jan. 21. MOCs for newly created districts won't take office until that date.
     
  6. kpmom2013

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    My question is not regarding USMMA, but rather younger DD who is applying to USNA and USAFA. My concern is that current MOC will only nominate from those within the constituency of the future district which does not include us, and ten days between the time new MOC takes office and nomination deadline are certainly not enough to conclude a nom process.
     
  7. Luigi59

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    Each MoC gets 10.

    So California would get 550 nominations, while Delaware would get 30.
     
  8. Vista123

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    this does not help you unless you appreciate the theory that misery loves company. Our state has just lost a district and so we are being redistricted. To make it even more batty the illinois League of Women Voters have filed a lawsuit to stop the redistricting. The districts were redrawn in such a way that is typical chicago/ illinois politics at its finest! Our district bounderies now resembles an anerexic barbell. At a SA night I asked the question 'which dustrict old or new?' the SA academy night folks answered with the same answers as USNA 1985 kindly posted. Old district. However, I have the same fears, why pick us we can't vote for you in the future and neither can anyone from our town. My answer to the dilemma is to tell my son to become so ridiculously competitive that he can't possibly not be chosen... There is something so bizarre that every dilemma ends with DS's mom saying just take the ACT One more time you'll be fine-along the lines of my grandmother telling me to 'just drink some more chicken soup and dumplings and all will be fine'

    I sincerely wish I was more helpful.
    Have a cup of soup and dumplings and retake the ACT. And don't worry about it honey. ;)
     
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  9. kpmom2013

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    Vista123--Thank you for putting a smile on my face. Misery does indeed love company. And I just bought DD an ACT prep book today, so I think my solution is the same as yours. You just to have to make it as difficult as possible for them NOT to select you...
     
  10. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    My representative leaves the service academy nominations to the director of constituent services in his office, who–unless I've misunderstood somewhere along the way–bases the selections purely on a merit-based point system and the recommendations of the officers on the interview board. The interview board is composed of graduates the academy. The nominations are competitive (vacancy winner chosen by the Academy admissions office).

    The politics are cut out as much as possible. I'm really grateful for that.

    Hopefully your representative handles things as fairly as mine. If so, things will still be quite alright for you.
     
  11. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    This is the way most, if not all, MOCs do it. I doubt the committee has any idea what the new district will be and who will be in it.

    Just FYI, this not necessarily true for all MOCs. Some members of the committee may be grads. Some may be parents (both of mine did it years ago). Or they may be grads of/affiliated with a different SA than the one they're selecting for.

    This also varies by MOC. Some make principal noms; others rank the candidates. Most use the competitive method your MOC uses.

    I think this is what most people find to be the case. Most, if not all, MOCs try to make it a meritocracy.
     
  12. usnamom2016

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    We are being redistricted as well. Being cut out of our current congressman's area. He is running for re-election, but we will not be able to vote for him. My son applied for, and received a nomination from our CURRENT district. My belief is that even those MOC's who may inject some politics into the selection process will not nominate those who are unqualified.

    Good luck! Also remember that your child can always apply again next year.
     
  13. armydaughter

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    I'm new here so you may have already found your answers. We are in a similar boat so I will tell you what I have found out in my investigation.

    Our district is being split into three. Even though the district we willl eventually be in already exists (unlike your case), they won't (can't) deal with nominations for students who are not currently in the district. We have been instructed to apply through our current disctrict. The redistricting doesn't go into effect until January, by which time all the application materials and interviews will be completed.
     
  14. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    There is a method to the madness of not having nom slates due to the SAs until Jan. 31. It eliminates most of the headaches regarding elections, redistricting, etc.
     

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