Rejected for Scholarship

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  1. Zachieepoo

    Zachieepoo Member

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    Just want to get the word out there that I didn't receive my scholarsihip for the AFROTC.

    "Your application met the board and you were not selected for a scholarship. You will be receiving written confirmation via mail within the next few weeks."

    Some of my stats:

    3.6 GPA
    26 ACT
    Very good high school ranked in top 100 in nation
    Eagle Scout
    Manager of TNT Fireworks
    Marching Band (lettered)
    Started my own iphone and itouch repair service
    President of Young men at my church
    Scout Co-captian for 2 years

    Had 48 push ups and 55 sit ups and 10:34 1 1/2 mile run

    I have other stuff but nothing major. Just really bummed now.

    I have to change my college decisions and plan.

    I am not gonna give up though. They will see me in ROTC next year, ready to prove them wrong haha.

    Thanks guys for the support and information on this forum!
     
  2. nofodad

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    Same here, DS just found out he was rejected denied for the NROTC scholarship, we knew it was a long shot since he was a tier III major, still a sad day. First kid from his NJROTC unit with an SAT over 1300 to not get a scholarship. Best of luck to everyone, he may yet choose the College Programmer route.
     
  3. FightingSioux2016

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    What was your major?
     
  4. Zachieepoo

    Zachieepoo Member

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    Computer science
     
  5. nofodad

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    International relations/political science
     
  6. Aglahad

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    Try AROTC there are a ton of international relations/poly sci majors
     
  7. nick4060

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    This is the attitude that cadre and senior cadets want to see in freshmen. Don't let it get you down. Keep it up and prove to them that you deserve an in-college scholarship.

    Good luck.
     
  8. evilleramsfan

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    Work on the Physical Fitness...

    Get those scores as high as you can, take as hard of a load as you can handle while keeping your GPA up, and keep loading on the extracurriculars. Give them the best overall package you can while in college. What state are you planning on going to school and is it state or private? Some states (such as Illinois), have a tuition waiver program. DS was selected for the program half way through the first semester and ended up having his tuition and his next two highest fees (aside from room and board) reimbursed.
     
  9. Tominator93

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    Out of curiosity, how did you get the news? Did you get notification via email, the Application Status page, or some other source?

    Sorry to hear about the disappointing news. Best of luck to your son.
     
  10. MechEngi2B

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    Nrotc reject

    NROTC Tier 1 reject

    Stats:
    3.3 Cum HS GPA (unweighted).
    3.6 this year and not counted towards scholarship application.
    I just got a few C grades, which I accept responsibility for, but facts were that I overloaded myself. Smart curriculum planning could have turned those C's into A's. Lesson for future applicants: Carefully weigh the consequences of heavy AP coursework. Especially, if you are stretching your academic limits.

    Other stats:
    AP: Physics (2 yrs), U.S. History, English (2 yrs), Art, Orchestra (cellist)
    4 years Cross Country with 3 varsity letters
    4 years Softball going for 2nd varsity letter
    Tons of substantive volunteer work
    SAT 1280 (M-620/R-660)

    College Admissions:
    California State Maritime Academy (Mechanical Engineering)
    California State Polytechnic, San Luis Obispo (Physics)
    California State Polytechnic, Pomona (Mechanical Engineering)
    Arizona State University (Aerospace Engineering)
    Admitted to University of New Mexico (Engineering/Pre-Nuclear Engineering)
    Admitted Oregon State University (Physics/Pre-Nuclear Engineering)

    I wanted so bad to be among the first women to qualify as a submarine officer. I also dig Navy white uniforms. I really envisioned myself on a big Ohio class boat and being a really good line officer. I was prepared to suffer endlessly for that dream. But, I have nothing to hang my head about. I just have to move on to bigger and better things without the Navy. God will give me many other things to dream about and accomplish.

    I still applied for AFROTC, so I have another chance. Air Force engineering is awesome and has always been most attractive to me. All I can say now is ... Go Air Force, whip Navy, and grant me a scholarship :thumb:
     
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  11. MechEngi2B

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    Website tracker changed to not selected
     
  12. nofodad

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    Very true. But the goal is Naval Officer, not military. Only applied NROTC and USNA, still waiting to hear about the latter...
     
  13. nofodad

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    Website changed, Sorry...we will send letter to explain your options...
     
  14. jagabiti

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    sorry to hear about your notices....join as a walk on ROTC member!
     
  15. kinnem

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    There is always NROTC as a College Programmer and then trying for a sideload scholarship. I wouldn't give up on the dream yet, unless of course AFROTC makes you a better offer.
     
  16. Pima

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    Mech,

    I wish you the best of luck for an AFROTC scholarship, but just from a curiosity perspective what will you do if AFROTC does not offer you a scholarship, will you go NROTC or AFROTC or nothing at all?

    I understand the financial aspect and the importance of the scholarship, but it always gets me nervous when people change their decision based on scholarship.

    Here's why:
    1. For AFROTC scholarship you must compete as a sophomore for SFT. If not selected they can dis-enroll you as a cadet.

    ~~~ That means if you can only afford to attend the school based on a scholarship, what happens if as a jr. you have no scholarship? How will you pay for it?

    ~ It is highly likely that the SFT rate will increase from the all time low of 55%, but it will never be 100%, never has been 100%. If it goes up to 67% , still 1 in 3 candidates will be in jeopardy.

    2. Upon commissioning you will serve at least 4 yrs 365 days 24 hrs.

    Each branch is unique, with unique missions. Wanting to be on a sub or on a bridge is not what you will find in the AF.

    It will be your life, they say move to Mt. Home, Idaho, (used it because it is land locked) you will move. They say Deploy to the sandbox for 4-6 months, you will deploy. AD military is 24/7 don't fool yourself into believing it is Monday-Friday 8-4 like the corporate world. Yes, the AF is the branch commonly referred to my sister services as corporate or Banker's hours, but that doesn't mean it really is once you are in the branch.


    Yes, I understand wanting to serve in any branch or any manner. I think it is admirable. However, many kids at 17 have yet to see their self at 25 in a career. They create an idyllic image of a fantasy...I can live in Hawaii or UK or their dream place. Reality is very, very few in a 20 career will PCS to Hawaii or UK or their dream place, because simply put everyone wants those places, not Eilson, AK, Almogordo, NM or Del Rio TX. Most that get those dream assignments had to take a bad juju assignment. Bullet jumped out of perfectly good airplanes with the 82nd to get Elmendorf.

    Take the time and investigate career choices with each branch, be realistic and address the positive/negative aspects of all of them. Decide from there.

    If you truly want to be on a sub, than take loans fight for an IS scholarship. You don't want to be 45 and look back regretting that you went to one branch for 4 yrs of scholarship payments.
     
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  17. kinnem

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    LOL. Thanks for the laugh Pima! For some reason that brought up images of the movie "Private Benjamin". "No. I signed up for the Army with the condos and the sailing boats." "Do these come in anything other than green? It's such a bad color on me." :biggrin:

    On a serious note, you're absolutely correct and all scholarship recipients need to consider this stuff. For proof just notice all the stress AFROTC cadets express on these forums about getting an SFT slot!
     
  18. Jcc123

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    Funny, Pima, that one person's "bad juju" assignment is another's dream assignment. My DS and most of his fellow cadets would love to get the 82nd as an assignment. Just goes to show you there is something for everyone in the military.
     
  19. Pima

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    Jcc123,

    Remember Mech is AF, not Army. In the AF world jumping out of perfectly good airplanes comes with insane risks. For rated one bad jump = never flying again. AF rated officers typically can't wrap their mind around why you would jump out if the plane is still flying just fine!:wink:

    Bullet as an AF officer took a lot of heat for this decision. He actually volunteered for it. His perspective was if I am going to step out of the cockpit, doing this assignment still keeps me in the thick of the action. It was between Bragg and Drum. Bragg won because Drum has a lot of snow in the winter!:shake: We know rated AF officers that went to Camp Red Cloud to get to Elmendorf. For Elmendorf at that time you had to be willing to take the bad juju AF assignments. 1 pin in a rated officer who has yet to meet gates is a risk you think very long and hard about.

    kinnem,

    I agree, and we not only see this with candidates on this board buying into the beautiful web pages that each service creates, but they also are college applicants and the same thing happens there regarding the school's glossy magazines and their web pages.

    Nobody is going to say lift the carpet and see the dirt swept under. SFT is an issue that most recipients do not understand when they go through the process. 4 yrs ago when our DS went through we did not know of that loophole, we assumed he had it for 4 yrs. His college has gone from 28K in 08 to 41K in 12.

    The other issue regarding AFROTC scholarships for Type 2 and 7, is there is a cap, and they do not up it every yr. It is currently, set at UP TO 18K, if the school ups the cost, that is on your dime. If you can only afford the school because of that 18K, what will you do next yr when the school charges 21K as a soph, 24K as a jr and 27K as a sr.?
     
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  20. kmaidaho

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    Keep your chin up! Two years ago, DS received the NROTC rejection and the TWE from USNA within the same week. He was devastated and so was I. (On that note, be sure to give your parents a big hug--it's hard for parents too!) He had put all of his eggs in the Navy basket and was left without any option but to attend the university about 2 hrs from home with a few small academic scholarships. He joined the unit as a college programmer. He's a 3.9 ME major and #1 in his class within the unit. The unit staff has been behind him 100%, but the money has not been there. (I understand more scholarships for colllege programmers may be available for next year.) Anyway, we continue to wait and that is VERY difficult. However, DS has mentioned more than once that he is glad he hasn't had everything handed to him. He has the respect of everyone in the unit. Now, if that will only translate into $$ soon! He LOVES the unit and has made it his personal goal to be at the top physically, mentally and spiritually. Don't lose sight of your goals and if they will take you in the unit without a scholarship, go for it--work your tail off and be thankful for the opportunites that come your way.

    Kat
     

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