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For anyone who is reapplying, please read my sticky on the subject. You need to figure out what your "weakness" was or reapplying won't do any good. Not to toot my own horn, but the info in the sticky is from USNA Admissions. Reapply, but be smart about it.
 
Be very careful in taking this gross stat too far in assessing future possibilities. A great many of these are former fleet folks, NAPS and prep schoolers, and ROTC college folks. In fact, at USNA the stats are dramatically dropping for appointees from the collegiate ranks, absent of ROTC engagements.

One point I am especially unclear about.

In the reapplying thread on this forum ... and in other posts ... 1985 advises that it is a far superior approach to attend a 4 year college, take the appropriate college courses ... than to attending a community college (unless $$ is an issue and that must be explained to USNA in pursuant admissions) ... or a prep school.

This seems to fly in the face of what USNA supports with its own resources for unsuccessful candidates. Where do they put their own $$ for this?

Prep schools and NAPS ... not 4 year college scholarships. And why? Because they exhibit leadership potential and are academically deficient.

And more specifically, 1985 notes that "any 4 year college" tops either prep schools or community colleges ...and it is obvious that every single applicant is admissable to a great many 4 year colleges.

Now to the summarizing questions:

1. Which is it and why?

2. And if it is in fact ..."go to college" why would USNA and the Foundation spend exhorbitant sums to send students to prep schools and NAPS when the preferred route is a 4 year college.

This one doesn't seem to make any sense in terms of appropriate next steps.
 
i have read and printed out your sticky. i'm going to attend a four year college and work on my weak areas
 
Whistle Pig said:
One point I am especially unclear about.

In the reapplying thread on this forum ... and in other posts ... 1985 advises that it is a far superior approach to attend a 4 year college, take the appropriate college courses ... than to attending a community college (unless $$ is an issue and that must be explained to USNA in pursuant admissions) ... or a prep school.

This seems to fly in the face of what USNA supports with its own resources for unsuccessful candidates. Where do they put their own $$ for this?

Prep schools and NAPS ... not 4 year college scholarships. And why? Because they exhibit leadership potential and are academically deficient.

And more specifically, 1985 notes that "any 4 year college" tops either prep schools or community colleges ...and it is obvious that every single applicant is admissable to a great many 4 year colleges.

Now to the summarizing questions:

1. Which is it and why?

2. And if it is in fact ..."go to college" why would USNA and the Foundation spend exhorbitant sums to send students to prep schools and NAPS when the preferred route is a 4 year college.

This one doesn't seem to make any sense in terms of appropriate next steps.
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First of all, the above isn't "my" advice, it is what USNA Admissions tells BGOs to tell candidates.

Second, there are many candidates who are 3 Q'ed w/nom(s) and yet don't receive appointments. This is the audience to whom I'm speaking.

As a general rule, USNA has SOME concerns about the ability of these candidates to succeed academically at USNA. The best way to prove you can do that is to succeed academically at a 4-yr college with courses that mimic those of a plebe. This year, one of my candidates who was 3 Q'ed with 3 noms last year attended a 4-yr college, took the "plebe courses", reapplied and now has an appointment.

NAPS and Foundation are used for candidates who do NOT qualify for USNA -- thus, they aren't 3 Q'ed. USNA believes those candidates can benefit from an additional year of prep school. If you are 3 Q'ed, you don't need prep school.

I realize that there may be some inherent "unfairness" in the way the system works --3 Q'ed candidates may be rejected and yet those not scholastically qualified are offered NAPS/Foundation. That decision is above my paygrade and not something we'll ever resolve on this forum
 
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A friend of ours just received his BFE - this was his third time to apply to USNA! He'll be 20 years old when he starts Plebe summer, with two years of college under his belt and a proven "never give up" attitude! :thumb:
 
PositiveThinking said:
A friend of ours just received his BFE - this was his third time to apply to USNA! He'll be 20 years old when he starts Plebe summer, with two years of college under his belt and a proven "never give up" attitude! :thumb:
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that is awesome. This inspires me to make sure I reapply if I get a TWE.
 
PositiveThinking said:
A friend of ours just received his BFE - this was his third time to apply to USNA! He'll be 20 years old when he starts Plebe summer, with two years of college under his belt and a proven "never give up" attitude! :thumb:
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In my class we have one guy who already has a degree in architecture and another who was only a semester away from graduating.

Additionally, 2 of my friends here were self-preps (meaning they paid for prep school themselves). If you really want to go to a Service Academy, and are medically qualified, then you CAN make it in. :thumb:
 
PositiveThinking said:
A friend of ours just received his BFE - this was his third time to apply to USNA! He'll be 20 years old when he starts Plebe summer, with two years of college under his belt and a proven "never give up" attitude! :thumb:
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So, does that mean that he starts out as Junior (2nd classman) mid? Or does he have to take 4 more years at the Academy?
 
FUTUREMID2015 said:
Thank you everybpfy, i'm already getting ready for the preliminary application to come out so i can start this again!
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FUTUREMID - Great that you are applying again. What are your plans in the interim? Another school? Be sure to take challenging courses/ maybe retake SATs and stay in close contact w/ B&G officer & admissions. Admissions looks favorably on repeat candidates. I was one way back when...

Best of Luck!:thumb:
 
pennak said:
EGADS! That's tough
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My instructor for AFJROTC told us a story about a guy that walked into his office asking about Westpoint. When they were discussing basic qualifications this kid said he was 17 but had already graduated. Not from high school, but from college. He already had a bachelor's degree but Westpoint is what he wanted to do. So he applied, was accepted, and started all over again as a freshman.
 
I will actually be attending embry riddle areonuatical university this summer and doing NROTC. I'm going to be taking all the plebe courses as well as some pre-requisite stuff for engineering. I Definitly plan on keep close contact with everyone!
 
d.mcknight said:
My instructor for AFJROTC told us a story about a guy that walked into his office asking about Westpoint. When they were discussing basic qualifications this kid said he was 17 but had already graduated. Not from high school, but from college. He already had a bachelor's degree but Westpoint is what he wanted to do. So he applied, was accepted, and started all over again as a freshman.
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Just remember that "starting all over" does not mean taking the same classes over again. If a Plebe validates course(s), they take whatever the next required course is. If someone already has a college degree at age 17, it seems likely that they're going to be able to validate a LOT of academic courses. That will open up opportunities for things like doing undergraduate research at USNA, or pursuing master's level courses at a nearby college in their upper-class years.
 
Futuremid!!!!

I will be at ERAU as well! I have a marine option scholarship in case this BFE business doesn't work out so well :/
 
asenopoulos said:
Futuremid!!!!

I will be at ERAU as well! I have a marine option scholarship in case this BFE business doesn't work out so well :/
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As will I - ERAU Prescott to major in Aerospace Engineering if the BFE does'n turn up - AFROTC in my case though.
 
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