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Definitely will! It's a great school, both of us are going to be in an outstandig position no matter what happens :)
 
First of all, my best wishes to all of you who are waiting for your letter from USNA, be it BFE or TWE: it is a great feeling to get the phone call or otherwise receive the good news.
For those of you who get the TWE and are considering re-applying, be sure to read the sticky on re-applying as it has lots of good and important information. Pick the course of action that best fits your situation; if you have weak academics it may be most beneficial to go to a prep school. If your high school marks are solid, then going to college AND TAKING THE COURSES RECOMMENDED BY ADMISSIONS should be your best option. Bear in mind that about 30% of the Class of 2016 will be young men and women who have done something after high school for at least a year, and the average age of ab entering plebe class is more than 19.
 
I'm still waiting to hear back from USNA, but I have AFROTC and NROTC at ERAU as well! I'm from NJ, so it'll be cool to see there will still be some people reapplying like me if neccesary at Riddle :D
 
Questions about USNA v. CGA

My DS just got TWE from USNA although he has received appointment to CCA.
He is contemplating doing NROTC at a 4 year college and then re-applying to Navy since he feels CG may not present the opportunities he desires - aerospace engr, jets. He has contacted his BGO and CGO to seek guidance on the strengths/weaknesses of his candidacy. I have two questions:
1. Can anyone speak to the potential for cross-commissioning after graduating from CGA?
2. His grades have slipped a bit this year (high school senior). I know that he will excel in college courses as he has a very strong AP background, but how will the senior slippage be seen by Navy on re-application?
 
this is for any one who would like to answer. Do you think it is a good idea to do NROTC for a year if you have never done any type of ROTC? i'm stil trying to decide if i will be doing NROTC at Embry riddle i haven't heard from my BGO since reciving my TWE.
 
HopefulMom413 said:
I have two questions:
1. Can anyone speak to the potential for cross-commissioning after graduating from CGA?
2. His grades have slipped a bit this year (high school senior). I know that he will excel in college courses as he has a very strong AP background, but how will the senior slippage be seen by Navy on re-application?
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I am not aware of any USNA grads transferring to the USCG, ever. Not saying it's never happened but it would be exceedingly rare. Last year only one grad did an interservice transfer (that happened to be one of my candidates from 4 yrs back:smile:). It was USN to USA. That grad didn't know until 40 days before graduation and had strong Army ties. Do NOT count on interservice transfer -- EVER.

If he decides to reapply, USNA will focus on his college grades and they will overtake his senior grades, for better or worse.

The above said, USCGA and the USCG are GREAT institutions (I came oh so close to attending USCGA and still think it would have been a great option for me). Your DS should strongly consider attending. However, if his heart isn't in it, it will never work.
 
Thanks, USNA1985, very helpful guidance as I try to advise my DS on next steps. I have read your sticky on Reapplying and will certainly use that as a guide should we take that step.
 
HopefulMom413 said:
Thanks, USNA1985, very helpful guidance as I try to advise my DS on next steps. I have read your sticky on Reapplying and will certainly use that as a guide should we take that step.
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The sticky outlines USNA's advice. It does work, as I had a reapplying candidate receive an appt this year.
 
usna1985 said:
I am not aware of any USNA grads transferring to the USCG, ever. Not saying it's never happened but it would be exceedingly rare. Last year only one grad did an interservice transfer (that happened to be one of my candidates from 4 yrs back:smile:). It was USN to USA. That grad didn't know until 40 days before graduation and had strong Army ties. Do NOT count on interservice transfer -- EVER.

If he decides to reapply, USNA will focus on his college grades and they will overtake his senior grades, for better or worse.

The above said, USCGA and the USCG are GREAT institutions (I came oh so close to attending USCGA and still think it would have been a great option for me). Your DS should strongly consider attending. However, if his heart isn't in it, it will never work.
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Thank you for this post.
 
usna1985 said:
I am not aware of any USNA grads transferring to the USCG, ever. Not saying it's never happened but it would be exceedingly rare. Last year only one grad did an interservice transfer (that happened to be one of my candidates from 4 yrs back:smile:). It was USN to USA. That grad didn't know until 40 days before graduation and had strong Army ties. Do NOT count on interservice transfer -- EVER.

If he decides to reapply, USNA will focus on his college grades and they will overtake his senior grades, for better or worse.

The above said, USCGA and the USCG are GREAT institutions (I came oh so close to attending USCGA and still think it would have been a great option for me). Your DS should strongly consider attending. However, if his heart isn't in it, it will never work.
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What do you mean when you say college grades overtake senior grades? Do they not even look at senior grades if an applicant is in college?
 
philparker said:
What do you mean when you say college grades overtake senior grades? Do they not even look at senior grades if an applicant is in college?
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If you took senior calc and got a C and get an A in college calc at a 4-yr college, that A is going to trump your C in h.s.

If you don't take college calc (BIG mistake), your h.s. grade of C will stand and won't help.

So, in answer to your question, if you take the "same" course in college (at a higher level, of course), that college grade will be what USNA considers because it is a greater "predictor" of how well you can handle college level courses. The converse is also true -- if you got As and Bs in h.s. and get Cs and Ds in college, you're in trouble. Seriously. Also, if you don't take most of the plebe courses in college -- i.e., take mostly sociology, criminal justice, economics, etc., USNA won't be happy.
 
I find this so frustrating, although i do appreciate your insight and knowlege.
DD is currently in 1st year college and did do extrememly well in HS. Her current University accepted 21 credits from her AP classes in HS....1 of which was Calc. She could not as a (1st semester)Freshman take a Calc course. She is presently taking a Calc 2 course (2nd semester). Though this wait is soon to be over and hopefully she will cross the finish line triumphantly, I am hoping that they do take all of her hard work and successful HS record into account. I feel that her HS career is a stronger indicator of her as a whole person and that 1 year of college can only make her stronger. Hope I am right :eek:!
 
usna1985 said:
If you took senior calc and got a C and get an A in college calc at a 4-yr college, that A is going to trump your C in h.s.

If you don't take college calc (BIG mistake), your h.s. grade of C will stand and won't help.

So, in answer to your question, if you take the "same" course in college (at a higher level, of course), that college grade will be what USNA considers because it is a greater "predictor" of how well you can handle college level courses. The converse is also true -- if you got As and Bs in h.s. and get Cs and Ds in college, you're in trouble. Seriously. Also, if you don't take most of the plebe courses in college -- i.e., take mostly sociology, criminal justice, economics, etc., USNA won't be happy.
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I'm re-applying to USNA this year and I'm entering my first year of college in the fall at University of Florida.

I'm not allowed to start right off into Calc, I have to take Pre-Calc my first semester and then Calc my second. Is that still okay, or will it set me back for USNA? Also, I'm majoring in International Studies and East Asian Languages (Chinese) with a minor in Arabic Languages. Will that not appeal to the USNA, even if I take Calc, Chem (with lab), and English Comp, and hopefully Physics!
 
FNP, I would say that does not hurt you.
I went to a similar Florida college and took the following courses:

Summer: Middle Eastern Civilization, Freshmen English & Rhetoric
Fall: Chemistry I w/ Lab, Macroeconomics, Freshmen Writing & Research, Analytic Trigonometry, Pre-Calculus Algebra (math classes were required for Freshmen, didn't take any AP math in HS)
Spring: Major Figures in American Literature, Micro Applications Web-Based (required), Microeconomics, Calculus for Business, Physics

Went into Admissions Board with 3.75. Back-up plan was going to be some type of Business/Computer major.

Do well in plebe-like classes, notice mine weren't all on the same wavelength of what USNA suggests, I was kind of going with Plan B track while still incorporating USNA plebe courses. Also, recommend to get involved in service organizations, intramural sports, etc. if you can!

Summer school is an option at UF, too.
 
I should be clear that USNA does consider h.s. activities, leadership and sports b/c they realize that it's tough to do much as a freshman at most colleges. So that all still counts.

I would really try to take college calc, especially if you struggled in h.s. and/or had low math SATs. You're trying to show USNA that you can succeed at college calc and the best way to do that is by getting an A in college calc. Do consider summer school -- not fun, but a viable option.

Realize that USNA won't have the benefit of 2nd semester college grades when they make the admissions decision.
 
Thank you, jadler! That's awesome for you, I like hearing success stories from re-appliers!

And thanks usna1985, I definitely would want to be taking Calc 1st semester but apparently it's not possible. I will look into summer school for sure, but I was accepted for Fall so I'd have to get it switched! I appreciate your input!
 
usna1985 said:
I should be clear that USNA does consider h.s. activities, leadership and sports b/c they realize that it's tough to do much as a freshman at most colleges. So that all still counts.

I would really try to take college calc, especially if you struggled in h.s. and/or had low math SATs. You're trying to show USNA that you can succeed at college calc and the best way to do that is by getting an A in college calc. Do consider summer school -- not fun, but a viable option.

Realize that USNA won't have the benefit of 2nd semester college grades when they make the admissions decision.
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what if you have a 95 Average in HS calc and get a 5 on the AP exam? Shouldn't I continue on to whatever math course a college has next instead of retaking a course ive obvisously already mastered?
 
what if you have a 95 Average in HS calc and get a 5 on the AP exam? Shouldn't I continue on to whatever math course a college has next instead of retaking a course ive obvisously already mastered?
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I believe USNA1985 was referring to the previous poster, who asked about taking pre-calculus vs. calculus in light of what the admissions board will see on the first semester transcript.

As always, if you can achieve higher, aim for it -- but don't take a more advanced class if you think you can't achieve a "B" or higher.
 
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