ROTC Changes on the Way

Sort of related to Pima's inquiry about drawdowns , etc., 7th Bde announced today that only 7 schools (of 38 total) made their contracting mission for YG '15. Seems low given an assumed force reduction initiative.
 
Jcc123 said:
Sort of related to Pima's inquiry about drawdowns , etc., 7th Bde announced today that only 7 schools (of 38 total) made their contracting mission for YG '15. Seems low given an assumed force reduction initiative.
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There have been rumors that the YG15 is well below the mission goals as a whole.
 
Sorry if this is a hijack. As the economy starts to get better in some/most parts of the country I wonder if we will see less applicants for ROTC, (those using ROTC mainly as a funding source), thus driving the number of cadets commissioned down.
 
sheriff3 said:
Sorry if this is a hijack. As the economy starts to get better in some/most parts of the country I wonder if we will see less applicants for ROTC, (those using ROTC mainly as a funding source), thus driving the number of cadets commissioned down.
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I've had the same thought, but with the rising cost of tuition the number may not drop as much as one would think.
 
sheriff3 said:
Sorry if this is a hijack. As the economy starts to get better in some/most parts of the country I wonder if we will see less applicants for ROTC, (those using ROTC mainly as a funding source), thus driving the number of cadets commissioned down.
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I doubt it. Regardless of how good the economy gets, college prices aren't getting any cheaper and will still be exorbitant. Also. while some are in ROTC solely for college funding, many are there for other reasons as well. Based on estimates I've read here that at least 50% of cadets are college programmers, they'll have no lack of applicants. That is not to say the numbers won't go down, but I doubt the state of the economy will be what's driving it.
 
kinnem said:
Not to be challenging, but desiring to make a few points:

1. I suspect any differences in training currently are due to the differences in facilities available to the unit. Not all colleges are near a base where Land Nav training becomes radically easier to accomplish, etc. They could easily accomplish more standardized training simply by edicting it if, in fact, there are really any differences.
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It's true. We do land nav multiple times a semester in a forest preserve. But I'ved talked to cadets from downtown Chicago who had to do it in a school gym....
 
Jcleppe said:
There have been rumors that the YG15 is well below the mission goals as a whole.
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From what our ROO has told us, they are. He has stressed to the instructors the number of contracts he has available.
 
DS has interpreted the message from his unit is ...

if you a non contracted cadet looking to contract we will do our best to help you get a scholarship this year if you bust your butt. If you are a 3 yr awardee you will likely get upgraded to a 3.5 if you bust your butt.

So.. there may be some money and spots still available.
 
sheriff3 said:
DS has interpreted the message from his unit is ...

if you a non contracted cadet looking to contract we will do our best to help you get a scholarship this year if you bust your butt. If you are a 3 yr awardee you will likely get upgraded to a 3.5 if you bust your butt.

So.. there may be some money and spots still available.
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I'm actually shocked to here this; from what I remember Clarkson said in a post a while back, most of the scholarship school transfers took a chunk of out of this fiscal year's budget.

sheriff3 said:
Sorry if this is a hijack. As the economy starts to get better in some/most parts of the country I wonder if we will see less applicants for ROTC, (those using ROTC mainly as a funding source), thus driving the number of cadets commissioned down.
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I would be inclined to think the opposite. As Pima said once in a thread a while back, with college prices going up AND overseas operations drawing down, it may look more appealing for just-about-to/graduated high school students to pursue a scholarship.
 
As an AFROTC Mom I am curious regarding what sheriff posted.

Obviously, it appears there is money, but the question is how much money?

I know for AFROTC it is done commissioning yr. groups. IOTW, they are re-working the 17 yr group. It would not have any impact on 18, because ADAF manpower goes yr by yr. It is about them getting enough commissioned in 17 to go AD.

Does the Army do the same thing?

Secondly, how will the 10% DoD budget cut play into the equation? Anyone know yet, if ROTC 14-17 yr groups are safe regarding cuts, or will they come back and take the money back from a training perspective to keep up the amount on scholarship?

Just asking because in AFROTC, the majority only get one summer training option, which would be the equivalent of LDAC. All of the other summer training programs have long been cut to keep the scholarships (big recruiting tool).

In 10 or 11, ADAF had to cut their budget for Oct 1st. They not only cut scholarships, but also OCS and consolidated dets. The next yr. money for AFROTC was flowing at a higher rate than anyone ever expected.

AF cut too hard, and had to make up for the cuts. Could it be last yr. they cut too hard, and now need more personnel to commit from a personnel perspective?
 
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