rotc + med school

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  1. josh726

    josh726 New Member

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    Ok first, a little background on myself. I've been in the nation guard and reserves for a total of 5 years in service. I'm also a nationally registered advanced EMT (a step below a paramedic, a step above an EMT). My two passions are medicine and the military. The question I have is how do I go about going to med school if I also go though rotc. Now I understand the med school requirement but that aside if I graduate an rotc program and take a commission do I just say "hey send me to med school" and then I go, or would the army just decide to stick me where they want me.
     
  2. Pima

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    Simple answer:

    SERVICE BEFORE SELF. They will always hold the trump cards when it comes to career fields and assignments.

    More complicated answer is you will have to apply for ED, and Med school. They decide whether to release you for ED.
     
  3. Aglahad

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    If you get into med school, your delay will probably be granted.

    Now the tough part....getting into med school.....
     
  4. VAMOM2015

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    My son is planning on doing this (AROTC). He's going to be a senior in college this fall. As Pima said, there are no guarantees. My son is currently applying to medical schools. You cannot request an educational delay until your senior year, so he will be working on this when he returns to school. He has been told he will probably be able to get the ED delay, but it's not a done deal until the paperwork is approved.

    If you haven't looked into medical school much, you need a very high gpa in college (3.7+) You also need a good MCAT score. Many regular students take a gap year after college to get in more research/shadowing/time to study for MCATs. Not really an option for ROTC students. It also requires you to be submitting your applications and your secondary applications to med schools the same summer you are doing training (if you are Army, I'm not well versed on the other services). Secondary applications start coming out mid-June and generally the schools want you to return them within 2-3 weeks. This is difficult when you are at LDAC (or whatever will be replacing it next year) for 4 weeks in the same timeframe (with no access to computers).

    It can be done, and ROTC students do it, but you need to do your research so you are prepared for everything you need to do (to include making sure you take all the required pre-med courses required by medical schools as well as your ROTC classes). If you are truly dedicated to the process it can be done if you can get that Ed delay!

    Many students choose not to do ROTC in college and then get military scholarships for medical school. This way they aren't having to request educational delays and can focus more on doing what they need to earn the grades and get accepted to medical school without the added time that ROTC requires.

    Do your research and decide what will work best for you. There are options.

    Good luck!
     
  5. josh726

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    Vamom2015, thanks the info, it's good to here from someone with some personal experience on the matter. I'm really considering the HPSP route but I'm not sure how that work with me being prior service. I can't even reenlist AD because I'm prior service I guess I should talk to a recruiter about that. Here's a follow up question that I haven't been able to get a straight answer on. Being that I'm already in the military they told me I'd come into the rotc program as a junior but if I still need 4 years of college how does that work with rotc? Do I jus stay a junior for 3 years?
     
  6. WorkforJesus

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    Yeah I also want to go to med school but want an army rotc scholarship as well. I actually want to serve me four years before medical school. Anyone know if this is realistic. Will my chances be harmed at getting into medical school?
     
  7. lrv61

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    My son is an AFROTC cadet about to start his senior year and he is planning to go to medical school. However, as PIMA previously stated it is service before self...last year he selected his AFSCs, none of which had the slightest relation to medicine...and he is prepared to serve if that is what comes to be.

    That said, being the only cadet at his DET pursuing this route, he needed to be proactive with respect to the process, researching the appropriate AF instructions and knowing all the deadlines. To answer your question, from an AF perspective, you first compete for a pre-health EA, if you do not get that you can compete for an AFHPSP scholarship and your last option is to request an education delay. The operative word here is “compete”...AND if you get one of those, you still need to get into med school.

    The pre-health board meets in August. My son is “trying” to work on medical school secondary applications but he has been busy this last month as a CTA at field training. Additionally, the AF is “thinning the herd” with the '15 class, so that will add a bit more uncertainty to an already hectic senior year.

    Good luck to you.
     
  8. jocomom

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    Have you looked into the Enlisted to Medical Degree Preparatory Program (http://www.usuhs.edu/adm/emdp2.html) at Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences?
     
  9. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    The Soldier needs a BS/BA before applying, but yes it is an option down the road.
     
  10. josh726

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    I actually had not heard of that. The only down side is that I'm not active duty. That and I still like 3 years to get my ba, 4 years of med school, plus internship and residency I'm 23 as it is I'm not sure I wanna add 2 more years on top of that. I'll definitely have to do my research on the matter. Thanks for the info.
     
  11. cchoang

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    ROTC? HPSP? Med School?

    I'm currently a sophomore in college and considering joining ROTC this fall. However I have another four years so I would be entering the program as a freshman. I'm currently studying clinical exercise science and pre-med, with a main objective of med school. The reasons why I'm considering ROTC is because of the lifestyle in itself, I like the structure it provides, the opportunity to give back,and job security, but another main thing is the money for undergrad. I'm currently paying for school completely on loans and it's a big burden. However as I've been doing some research I've come across the HPSP program and other saying not to do ROTC because there's no guarantee that I'll get to go to med school?
    My main questions are:
    Will being in ROTC effect my ability to get into med school?
    What does ROTC guarantee me and what are the risk?
    If I sign into ROTC with the goal of a physician and I don't get the chance to go to med school because i'm not granted an ED and the army pulls me to active duty, what would my job be???
    What should I know before making a decision and signing?

    Thanks
     
  12. Aglahad

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    You can but it's not the smartest route nor is it cost effective. Look at it this way:

    Commission at 22, serve AD for 4 years and you are now 26. Coupled with the fact you've been out of school for a while and your prereqs are old you will probably need retakes to be able to ace the MCAT (Taking sciences with labs on AD is next to impossible I tried it). Add on 1-2 years. So you are now 27/28 and apply to med school and get in with a start date at 28-29 years old. Med school is 4 years so you graduate at 32-33. Depending on your residency you won't be full credentialed as an attending for another 4-7 years where you will start to make the big bucks. You are now 36-40. Those years add up, do you want to be a doctor or serve right away? Your move.

    Personally if I wanted to be a doc I would go RIGHT away, waiting does you no good. Also if you want a family that adds even more hardship into schooling.
     
  13. Aglahad

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    Will being in ROTC effect my ability to get into med school?

    No other than less time to study

    What does ROTC guarantee me and what are the risk?

    They guarantee you nothing, you risk doing a job you don't like and or owing a lot of money.

    If I sign into ROTC with the goal of a physician and I don't get the chance to go to med school because i'm not granted an ED and the army pulls me to active duty, what would my job be???

    Needs of the Army based off of how well you do in ROTC. You could be infantry or logistics etc, it's hard to tell. Worst case scenario you can choose reserves and keep trying for med school as you would only be a part time soldier.

    What should I know before making a decision and signing?

    You should be ready to be a soldier first and not a doctor because that isn't guaranteed. If you want to be an Army doc, skip ROTC and join after you get into med school.
     

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