Rotc Physical Fitness Test question

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  1. Rupre07

    Rupre07 Member

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    Alright, so I took the physical fitness exam and got 54 push ups in one min, 50 sit ups in one min, and a 6:57 one mile run. I believe I hypothetically failed sit ups (I haven't done them in a long time, and I think you need 53, correct me if I'm wrong) and I know I still have a while to get my scores up but my question is, can you still get the 4 year scholarship if you don't meet the standards in a certain category? As in, can you be awarded the scholarship but upon arrival to school or before you contract you must be able to pass it then? Thanks for the insight everyone!
     
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    Anyone??
     
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    The scores you posted here will be fine if you are applying for a scholarship. To contract you have 2 minutes to do max sit ups, 2 min max push ups and then a timed 2 mile run. Google AFPT. good luck
     
  4. Jcleppe

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    I agree, your fine as far as the scholarship application goes.

    Just keep working at it, form means everything when you do your first official APFT. Just read some of the previous post about how many failed their first APFT even when they had a good PFT for the application.
     
  5. Rupre07

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    Trust me, my form was perfect, I had a brigadier general administer my test.
     
  6. Jcleppe

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    Unless that Brigadier is a current ROTC cadre instructor that gives APFT's as part of his job description....I wouldn't count my chickens just yet.
     
  7. Aglahad

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    That doesn't mean as much as you think, rank doesn't always equal tough. You want to find an overly tough grader? Go find a cocky 2LT.
     
  8. Strength and Honor

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    :thumb:
     
  9. Rupre07

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    I'm not here to argue but part of his job was giving pt tests so please don't attempt to discredit him. But what I'm really looking for is, did I fail the test or not?
     
  10. Jcleppe

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    Well, I guess you failed then, is that the answer your looking for. Previous posters have all given you an answer, up to you whether you listen or not.

    As far as your Brigadier goes, there are none of them that give ROTC cadets their APFT at ROTC. You can sit back and assume your perfect or listen to others who have seen what happens when they're not prepared. The first APFT you take will be strict, there are NG members that have scored 280 at their unit only to fail their first ROTC APFT.

    As Aglahad said, wait til a new 2LT or a MS4 that failed his first test grades you, or if your really lucky, the battalion MSGT, you'll be wishing that Brigadier was scoring you again.

    You may not be here to argue, but name dropping and attitude won't get you far, humility will.
     
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    That came off as a little hostile.. I'm not arrogant, I was looking for a definitive answer and was defending a person that I have great respect for.
     
  12. Jcleppe

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    Here's your definitive answer.

    There is no pass/fail on the PFT for the scholarship application. Do your best and then your scored. Did you do fantastic, No, did you do good enough to submit with the application, Yes.
     
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    DS, now MSIII, failed his first AFPT. MS4 DQed a few of his pushups based on form, or lack thereof. He had to wait until Dec to retake and contract. He missed the deadline for CULP, since he wasn't contracted.

    Let me know when and where you plan to refer to the Brigadier in conversation with the MSGT. I want to be a fly on that wall.

    Don't mean to bust your chops. I do 125 pushups over a 45 min period during a P90X type workout. You guys are a different realm. Just want you to be prepared for a potentially humbling experience, having witnessed the process with my own DS.

    Best of luck.
     
  14. USMCGrunt

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    Rupre07: You have asked a lot of questions in this forum and had a lot of well meaning people respond to you with very good advice. Don't be so quick to take offense - reading the responses I see posters with good warnings based on past experiences.

    Truth is, what is acceptable to one evaluator will not be to another. Rank means nothing in this context. There is no appeal. Your evaluator calls the shots. Often they are extra tough on the first evaluation. Kind of setting the bar. Frankly, it does no one any good to be soft on the evaluations.

    So take each and every response you get on this forum with appreciation and the knowledge that people are writing because they want to help. That includes admonishments.
     
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    That seems to imply there is another form of 2LT, does it not? :wink:
     
  16. goaliedad

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    Eventually, one of our Cadre members (Marist or Clarkson) will chime in here, but as I remember, the PFT (not to be confused with the APFT which your enlisted cadre will administer once you are a cadet) is a very small factor in the scholarship applicant scoring.

    Clearly you've done well enough to not disqualify you. Whether you maxed your score, you can ask the cadre at your favorite school to look at your file and perhaps they will give you your overall score if they are friendly. Ultimately, this is not something you should worry about at this time as there is nothing you can do at this point.

    I have a dumb question, but I thought the PFT was supposed to be administered by a coach or teacher at your school and submitted by the school. Do you have that high rank of an officer at your school?

    And those stories about SSGTs and 2nd LTs knocking down your scores at LDAC is nothing to sneeze at. If you are lucky, they count the same number out loud several times in a row where you can adjust your form and move the count. Some of them don't count so loudly and you end up failing your APFT without knowing it. Oh, and BTW that gets you an N and severely damages your chances at AD. And no, the re-take you do back at campus does not change that N score. It only allows you to remain in the program.

    The message here is that you shouldn't get too enamored with positive reviews of your performance because it will blind you to those who would have a different opinion and can negatively affect your life.
     
  17. GemStateMom

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    I found this online from Norwich University FAQs:



    http://www.norwich.edu/cadets/rotc/army/faq.html
     
  18. Rupre07

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    USMCGrunt- I really do appreciate all of the feedback here, it has provided tremendous help in my application process. I just felt that the remark was a little personal because it was someone that I knew. But ultimately this forum didn't fail to answer my question once again and I thank everyone very much for that.
     
  19. MabryPsyD

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    BGs have MAJs fetch coffee. However you have a BG on all fours checking to see if you're breaking the plane.

    My mind is blown...

    You seem to want to improve your physical fitness. Do you have a friend who runs at you speed or faster who can pace you?
     
  20. Strength and Honor

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    The bottom line is that in the grand scheme of the scholarship application, the PFA plays a very small to nonexistent role in selection. You SHOULD be posting your academic stats so we can see if you'll actually get the scholarship!

    And in the battalion I think people respect the person who is the better leader, not the one with the best PFT scores. But I could be wrong! Good luck though, I'm applying this year as well!
     

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