ROTC Scholarship

@Just_A_Mom... I am taking the SAT in October. I am going to take the ACT the second time they give it because I will be out of town for the first time.

@Pima... Yes I understand, I also appreciate your honesty. I need to get into the schools first and foremost . I really want to go to UNC-CH but I will understand if I don't get accepted there. A lot of my family went to NC State to get their degrees. So I would be willing to go there because I have heard so many good things about that school.
 
NC State is a great school. Actually, I believe PackMom's DS is in the NROTC program there, or maybe he just graduated from their program, but either way she is someone I would pm.

You can also find her on www.collegeconfidential.com as PackMom.

For college chances, I would suggest you check out that site, and do a chance me thread under each college link. That site is great for the college aspect, but for ROTC it is not a place to go, because the majority of students are traditional students, and have little to no knowledge regarding ROTC.

Using both sites will allow you to have a more informed decision when it comes to how to navigate the waters next yr.
 
@Pima... I am one up on you. I have been a member of that site for two years now. NC State is definitely a school that I would go to in a heartbeat.
 
Off topic, but sorry as far as ACC schools, UMDCP(DS) and VA Tech(DD) are the best!

Our DS's best friend goes to NCSU and the two visit each other 2x a yr to go to the NCSU and UMD football and basketball games. The problem with NCSU you guys have to wait in line for days for tickets to the game...that really stinks when you are in line and it is raining!

Back on topic.

For those trying to go NROTC or AROTC it probably would be good if you placed the college name (no 1 pick) in your chance me thread title, because than people with association to those schools will be more likely to respond than just a generic chance me for NROTC scholarship.

Again no need to do that for AFROTC, because it is not a factor.
 
@Pima... Yes ACC schools are by far my favorite because it seems like there is always something going on between them. I also love the history of all the schools. Oh yeah how could I forget Maryland. I used to live in Maryland when the Marines had him stationed there. That's when my mom went to Johns Hopkins. I would love to go to UMDCP for ROTC.

OK sorry, that was my off topic time. Back on the subject at hand.
 
UMDCP has a strong Army and AF det, but for Navy you must go x-town to GW which is not always ideal. Centh's son is going to be a C200 this yr at UMDCP in the NROTC program.

This again is another issue, that ROTC candidates should look into when deciding where they want to attend college. Going x-town sounds like no biggie in theory, but when you get there, and have to jig your school schedule to fit the labs and PT formation, it can become a pain really quick.

For example, in the UMDCP area, you are battling the worst traffic in the nation. It can take an hour during peak commuter hours to go 15 miles. UMDCP has the luxury of having the metro at their campus, but it still isn't fun when you are crammed in like sardines and it is 6 in the morning! YES, peak commuter hours here start @ 5:30 a.m and go to 9 a.m., by 3 p.m. you repeat the process until 6-7 p.m.

The other negative is, you may feel "left out" from a camaraderie stand point. (This is not a blanket statement, it is more reflective regarding your own personality). UMDCP AFROTC has GMC nights, and this is when the cadets just get together to play foosball, crud and eat pizza. It exists to bond, it is not mandatory. AAS at UMDCP meets also one night a week on top of that, it is hard to pledge if you attend a campus that is 20 miles away and the meetings are held 6:30 to 9:30 a night, because it can be wearing on a person to travel this distance now 3 times a week. (Lab, and AAS). It may be easier just to say, never mind and not put that one extra step forward.

Then there is the flip side, that because you are going x-town, you can actually become very close to your college ROTC peers since you are all traveling that way. It is unique to your situation. Again look at the campus size...UMDCP is big, thus, a lot of NROTC cadets are coming from there. GMU is small, thus you may be the only one commuting.

It really is up to the person, there is no true hard and fast rule, but you need to address things like this when you are selecting your college that is tied to an ROTC scholarship.
 
Yes thank you,

Commuting that far and that often really wouldn't be fun. I know the traffic there is horrible that is one reason why commuting might not be an option but, at any rate I will keep it as an option to consider if I am willing to take that step. I really appreciate all the thought you are putting into this Pima.
 
To be honest, this is what my scolarship coordinator told me:

With a 3.24 Weighted (3.0 unweighted)
25 ACT (27 M/E)
Baseball/Volleyball
Some charity/volunteer work
A few EC's
Camp counselor
Nuclear Engineering as intended major
Ability to speak a second language
40+ Hour per working week


He said he would not be surprised at all if I got the scholarship, and he thinks I have a good shot of getting it.


If he said I have a good shot, then I think you have a prtty good shot.

Of course, I will find out whether or not I got in the next few weeks. (Made the first board)
 
Alrighty cooper1234 you will have to let me know if you got it. I wish you the very best. Good Luck.
 
Cooper, unless you have a typo, I would agree with him, because you stated on top of the gpa, in your EC's you work 40 hrs a week. That means full time employment and full time school. This factor is not something any board will ignore.

Now if you only work 20 hrs a week, it would be a different story.

Again, it is the WHOLE PACKAGE for the candidate. You work full time at the same time attend school full time carrying a B avg, additionally, you can speak a second language. You should be proud of your accomplishments, but you are unique with regards to the traditional candidate.

Again, the board will look at the WHOLE CANDIDATE.

Cooper, what branch are you applying to?
 
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Alrighty, sorry I haven't been around my computer the past few days.

In the athletics category I believe I have found a solution to it. I am going to wrestle this year (I wrestled in 8th grade) and play tennis in the spring again like I did my freshman year.
 
OC Josh

Sorry for delay in answering, (been out of country)

"In January 2007, the Secretary of Defense announced an initiative to
expand the Army from a total of 1,037,000 to 1,112,000 active and
reserve soldiers by fiscal year 2013--an increase of 74,200 military
personnel--in order to meet increasing strategic demands and to help
reduce stress on the force."

from the "The Grow the Army Plan"

https://secureweb2.hqda.pentagon.mil/vdas_armyposturestatement/2010/index.asp
 
OC Josh

Sorry for delay in answering, (been out of country)

"In January 2007, the Secretary of Defense announced an initiative to
expand the Army from a total of 1,037,000 to 1,112,000 active and
reserve soldiers by fiscal year 2013--an increase of 74,200 military
personnel--in order to meet increasing strategic demands and to help
reduce stress on the force."

from the "The Grow the Army Plan"

https://secureweb2.hqda.pentagon.mil/vdas_armyposturestatement/2010/index.asp

I understand where you are getting your belief. I would say two things. That number is from 2007, right before the Iraqi surge. In addition, that quote does not address officers nor actual scholarships, just the entire size of the Army. Ergo, I think it is incorrect to tell people the Army is increasing scholarships. Like I said before, last year the scholarships were cut by around half. However, it is entirely possible they are increasing the number of non-scholarship, contracted cadets.

Either way, we can't do anything about it:thumb:
 
OC Josh:

I'm sorry, I did not mean to infer that the Army was offering more scholarships. I was trying to say (poorly) that the Army was increasing in size,
and that a growing organization would offer more opportunities in the future as compared to an organization that is not growing.
You are 100% correct that the Army increased its size to meet the Surge requirement.
And that that size is projected to drop some as they pull out.

FYI: the 2579 number on scholarships is for 4 yr scholarships, it looks like total scholarships are about 6,000/yr (pg 139) w/4600 getting butter bars

Trying not to get too Geeky --- But if you look at the Army 2011 estimated budget You will see that the Army is planning on 'growing' more officers,
As it increases the number of officers and decreases the number of enlisted.

Army ROTC Budget:
ESTIMATE FY 2011 $138,731
ESTIMATE FY 2010 $143,586
ACTUAL FY 2009 $97,501


FY 2010 and FY 2011 Pay and Allowance rates include a Cadet camp completion bonus, a new incentive beginning in FY 2010 offered to Cadets upon completion of camp.
The ROTC program has a net change of -$4.9 million from FY 2010 to FY 2011. This change is based on
(1) Price increase due to pay raise: +$1.4 million.
(2) Program decrease due to a reduction in the number of anticipated Senior ROTC participants: -$6.3 million

MILITARY PERSONNEL, ARMY
SECTION 2
INTRODUCTION
End Strength
The President announced in January 2007 that the United States would strengthen the military for the war against terror by increasing the overall strength of the
Army and Marine Corps. Under this plan, active duty Army end strength increased by a total of 65,000 from the FY 2007 President's Budget request of 482,400 to
an end state of 547,400. Under the original plan, the Army would have reached 547,400 in FY 2012; however, to relieve stress on the Force, the Army has grown
as rapidly as possible and reached 547,400 in FY 2009.

Officer to Enlisted Ratio
The Army has experienced Officer requirement growth that is driven by Quadrennial Defense Review, the Department’s Guidance for the Development of the Force (GDF), National Security Strategy, Modularization of units, Joint Headquarters growth (e.g. AFRICOM) and growth in areas such as Special Operation
MILITARY PERSONNEL, ARMY
SECTION 2
INTRODUCTION
Forces, contracting, Civil Affairs and Psychological operations. The force structure reflects adaptation of modular units the Army’s transformation. While many
requirements are set, the Army’s ability to fill the “spaces” generated by the requirements will take many years (it requires approximately 9 years to grow a Field
Grade Officer). The requirements are driving a slow increase in the ratio of Officer to Enlisted personnel that are the primary driver of the Military Personnel
Budget Requests. The ratio change is reflected in an increase in the officer strength and a decline in the enlisted strength.
 
Cooper, unless you have a typo, I would agree with him, because you stated on top of the gpa, in your EC's you work 40 hrs a week. That means full time employment and full time school. This factor is not something any board will ignore.

Now if you only work 20 hrs a week, it would be a different story.

Again, it is the WHOLE PACKAGE for the candidate. You work full time at the same time attend school full time carrying a B avg, additionally, you can speak a second language. You should be proud of your accomplishments, but you are unique with regards to the traditional candidate.

Again, the board will look at the WHOLE CANDIDATE.

Cooper, what branch are you applying to?

Oh true, forgot to mention, 40 hrs per week is during the summer. I'm a camp counselor, but I work during the year sometimes too.

Also, Navy ROTC
 
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