Running Conditions

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  1. freydnbaked

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    Hello, I'm wondering the specific running conditions during beast. Do you primarily run in boots and pants? How far do you run each day? Whats the best way to prepare for Beast? I was also wondering what happens if you were to receive a stress fracture in the last week of Beast, do you immediately drop out?

    Thanks,

    A. Frey

    P.s. Sorry if these questions have already been asked, I did my best to find them online.
     
  2. Dixieland

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    You don't run in boots at Beast--you will run in your broken-in running shoes that you bring to R-Day. New Cadets run in shorts and T-shirts that are issued on R-Day. One of the current cadets will have to answer about how much you run.

    Hopefully, you are running now and wearing your good-quality running shoes. Try to get to a specialty running store and have your feet properly fitted for the correct type of shoe for your foot. My cadet was running in cushy, comfy running shoes and ended up with shin splints two months before Beast. Rest and better shoes took care of the problem. He ran the hills in our neighborhood in the heat and humidity to prepare. Lots and lots of hills at West Point and New York is hot and steamy in the summer!
     
  3. mmxiii

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    During our beast we didn't run more than every other day. The runs are by ability group and are usually about 30 minutes long at the most. In the end we didn't end up doing that many runs because you will have field days and other days that you don't PT. The key is not to fall out, but keep pushing yourself to the end.
     
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    mmxiii- welcome to the forum. Your advice and insight in 9 posts so far have been great!

    I assume that new cadets are grouped by speed/capabilities. How many groups are typical...and what are group mile times? What are the consequences for falling out of formation? It seems everyone focuses on the running, I believe some new cadets can probably run all day, but will struggle in other areas such as PT, etc...?
     
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    During our Beast it was 4 groups- Black, Grey, Gold and Green. I believe they might have added one this last year.
    Black was the cross country kids for the most part. They ran much harder, longer routes at a very fast clip. Grey was your fit runner part. I ran the two mile in 13:24 at the end of beats and Grey was a challenge for me. Gold was the average person group and they ran a bit slower than us. Green was for the football players. They just did run/jog laps around the parade field. I'm not sure if there were real consequences for falling out of formation (they won't kick you out), but you might get kicked down to a lower run group. And you do want a holistic fitness plan. I did pushups and pullups after running in preparation for beast. The typical fitness sessions are:
    1. Run groups
    2. Muscular Strength and Endurance (MSE)- A circuit that consists of
    A) Pullups/Ankles to the bar
    B) pushups/Situps
    C) Dips/Body weight squats
    3. Grass drills- The easiest and most fun day. Usually involves relays (Wheel barrow, piggy back) or the army approved grass drills (kind of like up downs with other stuff thrown in).
     
  6. freydnbaked

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    Thanks

    Thanks for the information, it was very helpful. I had one more question about the application process. I was watching an interview with the admissions rep, she said that you should start your application in December-January of your junior year. Though, I am working on my eagle and I might not be able to finish eagle before December. Will I be able to add that to my application?

    Thanks

    A. Frey
     
  7. Casey

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    Frey, you can always send in updates to admissions to have your file updated. They may ask someone to verify (guidance counselor, etc) but you will be able to update your file until the file deadline
     
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    Thanks

    Ok sounds good, thanks for the information.


    A. Frey
     
  9. buff81

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    A-Day 2009, we met a New Cadet who had a stress fracture and was in a boot. She was not able to do March-Back. In order for her to complete that requirement, she was told that as a rising Cow, she would be cadre for 2nd detail of Beast and complete the March-Back requirement then.
    Fast forward 2 years - this is her summer to do that.
     
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    Endurance Tests

    I was watching videos on youtube and I saw a video of a beast endurance test where the cadet has to hang on to the pull up bar for 1 minute. What are the consequences if you can't hold on for the whole minute? Also, what results in you having to resign from beast? or is it simply your choice if you leave?


    Thanks

    A. Frey

    P.s. Like i said before, sorry if they are dumb questions, I am just trying to get all my facts straight.
     
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    We didn't have anything like that last summer. When you're are doing PT, though, it's not like they are going to punish you when you reach muscle failure.

    Really, the farthest consequences go is doing pushups and the like or writing letters/essays. Once you are start Beast, the goal is development, not to thin the class out. The New Cadets I knew who resigned during Beast left because they decided West Point and the Army wasn't for them, not because they were forced.
     
  12. SaltLife

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    My friend who was a plebe this last year said the most they ever ran was 4 miles and I think he said they only did that once.
     
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    Thanks for the Info.

    A. Frey
     

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