SAT Superscore

Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by 5Day, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. 5Day

    5Day Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    946
    Likes Received:
    454
    Will USNA Take one SAT score from the "old" SAT and one from the new format to Superscore?
     
  2. ktnatalk

    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2016
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    376
    That is a great question! Has anyone called admissions and has an answer to share?
     
    murfthesurf likes this.
  3. Padre101

    Padre101 Parent

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2015
    Messages:
    558
    Likes Received:
    312
    A sidenote. I've heard that some civilian schools will definitely NOT superscore the old and new SATs since they are completely different tests.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2016
  4. metsycats

    metsycats Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    14
    I second what padre101 said
     
  5. NotCollege

    NotCollege Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2016
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    9
    I don't know about Naval Academy but Air force has said that they will not.
     
  6. laurenbachman13

    laurenbachman13 New Member

    Joined:
    Wednesday
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    1
    Yes, they will! I attended the Summer Seminar this summer and they made it clear that USNA will superscore the old & new SAT scores but will not superscore the CFA.
     
  7. Brave

    Brave Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    52
    I find it hard to believe that they could superscore old & new scores together. In all my dealings with CollegeBoard I've been told this is impossible...they are two different tests.

    Here's a possible interpretation that would make sense...they will superscore old SAT scores with old SAT scores AND they will superscore new SAT scores with new SAT scores. Thus, them saying they will superscore old and new SAT scores would make sense. But that's not the same as superscoring old SAT scores WITH new SAT scores.

    If I am incorrect, by all means let me know, I have hundreds of students I will need to advocate for with CollegeBoard.

    In case you are unfamiliar with my background, I am a HS principal...so I work with CollegeBoard often. They are the folks who administer SAT.
     
  8. beth4kids

    beth4kids Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2016
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    11
    They allow you to super score between the ACT and the SAT so I would not find it surprising that they would super score old & new SAT. This is the only college I know of that will super score between tests. (ACT & SAT)
     
  9. Brave

    Brave Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    52
    Of course, superscore in the sense that they will take whichever SET of scores gives the applicant the best showing. Keep in mind if you have the old SAT, new SAT, and ACT you are actually comparing 3 different sets of tests. Superscoring is common among colleges/universities within the same test, not across tests. For example: They wouldn't use an ACT Math Score with a SAT English. If they did, this would be the first I've ever heard of ANYONE ever doing that. Again, if that's the case, I've got several hundred students whom I will need to advocate for their college admission.
     
  10. tex2021

    tex2021 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    33
    Are you referring to USNA ? If so, where did you see this info ? Thanks.
     
  11. A6E Dad

    A6E Dad Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    8
    this is exactly what they do, and admissions confirmed it.

    they will super score between the old and new SAT, and also super score between SAT and ACT

    for ex., they will take the best of: ACT Math, Old SAT Math, New SAT Math and then combine that with the best of ACT English, Old SAT Verbal, New SAT Verbal. In order to do that, the use concordance tables to get all the scores on the same scale. They didn't specify which scale the use (I suspect they convert to the new SAT), but they did confirm that the use the best of all 3.

    this is the only school i'm aware of that does it this way. most schools will take the best ACT composite or the best SAT combined but not combine then, but Navy does
     
    ktnatalk likes this.
  12. tex2021

    tex2021 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    33
    If this is the case, DS would be very happy to learn he has maxed out.
     
  13. Brave

    Brave Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    52
    Well I stand corrected then...I'm going to have a chat with the counselors and Collegeboard to see if this is happening elsewhere. This makes no sense to me and is the first I've ever heard of using multiple platforms....my Assessments professors are rolling in their graves...I can hear them now, "How can you deal with standard reliability using different instruments?"

    Just cuz I've never heard of it, and just because it doesn't make sense to me, I guess doesn't mean it's not being done that way...But I do need to go do more research....Thanks for being persistent with me. I'm always open to learning new things...and right now my mind is blown.

    :blowup:
     
    Ohioman likes this.
  14. ktnatalk

    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2016
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    376
    @Brave, I am sorry to say that you are wrong. Please call USNA admissions at 410-293-1858 to get the info directly and share with your students. You then know is from the source and not just "random characters" like us. Your students need the correct info from their principal.

    From USNA.edu, steps for admisssions:
    5. College Admissions Test
    The Naval Academy requires candidates to take the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT-I) or the American College Test (ACT) prior to admission. For admission purposes, the academy will evaluate candidates based on the highest score in each individual category if you elect to take these tests multiple times.

    Also, USNA holds tours for educators and administrators from around the country. Ask them how/when you could come for an official visit and meet with Admissions staff.
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM
    Ohioman likes this.
  15. Brave

    Brave Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    52
    I love learning new stuff...again, thanks for being persistent with me.

    ...After further review, here's what I learned from USNA Admissions:

    They will convert all scores into a scaled SAT score, report the highest, average, and number of times taken on the candidate's packet. So, technically they are superscoring in the sense they are using conversion charts, old SAT will be converted, and ACT will be converted to a single scaled SAT score. Thus, they are only looking at one number for math and one number for English. So, I conclude you are correct and I am misspoken.

    In terms of the traditional definition of superscore, what I maintained is still correct...technically, and after speaking with CollegeBoard, they are unaware of anyone who would be combining scores in the traditional sense of what superscoring means. They are also unaware of anyone who converts to a scaled score like USNA, but as they told me, it's any school's prerogative to do whatever they want with the information.

    At the end of the day, there's enough right for everyone to have a piece....albeit some pieces are bigger than others.

    My advice always has been and always will be to take both exams, there's even more of an incentive for USNA.

    In the interest of research, I contacted USAFA and USMA admissions, and they do NOT covert to a single score. They do things the traditional way.
     
    5Day, tex2021, Ohioman and 1 other person like this.
  16. jebdad

    jebdad Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2013
    Messages:
    188
    Likes Received:
    65
    The tidbit about the avg and number of times taken is a big one in my opinion and this if often overlooked.

    DS has always waited and paid the extra $$ to send the scores once he sees them and deems them something he wants admissions to see. Others have said that take it as many times and use the free score reports. The above quote would indicate that is a bad idea. If they are looking at the avg, its a really bad idea to blindly send them every report.

    Wow. I had always suspected that while having a grocery list of scores on your portal shows determination, a candidate could be supplying info that could actually be a detriment to their file.
     
    ktnatalk and Ohioman like this.
  17. tex2021

    tex2021 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    33
     
  18. tex2021

    tex2021 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    33
    @Brave ,
    Good stuff Brave.
     
    Brave likes this.
  19. ktnatalk

    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2016
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    376
    Thank you for agreeing to what I have been preaching! :thumb:

    http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/send-act-and-sat-scores.51935/#post-511526
     
    truenorth likes this.

Share This Page