School Choice

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Packer, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. Packer

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    Does the cost of the schools you list on the application form affect the chance of receiving an AFROTC or NROTC scholarship?
     
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    Won't speak for NROTC, but AFROTC does not take into consideration the cost of school, only the intended field...tech v non-tech.


    It is important to realize Type 2 and 7 are capped at a specific amount, thus that is why the cost is not a player for most recipients from the POV of ROTC.

    For example you can pick a 45K college, but only get a type 2, it is up to you to make up the financial deficiency for the cost of the school.

    Type 7 is locked to a specific amount and you are not allowed to make up the difference, this is why many will transfer their 4 yr Type 7 to a 3 yr Type 2.
     
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    I understand the rules are the rules but why would they care if I made up the difference?
     
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    They care because once contracted you get perks...books and monthly stipends.

    That money comes out of the AF budget. Forcing a Type 7 to convert to a Type 2 delays that financial liability.

    A contracted cadet gets 900 in books, and I think 250 -300 a month.(Our DS is a C300, so his stipend is higher). Start doing the math and you can see, why they have a Type 2 and Type 7.

    They can't afford to pay that for everyone.

    Additionally, Type 2 allows you to make up the difference. Type 7, says if the college will accept this amount, okay! If they don't the AF says you can convert to type 2 3 yr.

    These are tough economical times, and taxpayers are paying for your education. They want to know that their money is being used wisely.

    Stinks for you, but that is the fact.

    Additionally, I will say as a member of this forum for 3 yrs+, those who got type 7 also got MERIT from the college.

    Although nobody ever wants to address the elephant in the corner, the truth is, for AFROTC, the avg cadet who gets any scholarship also got merit money too from their potential schools.

    I always say if you are trying for a Type 1, use the AFA candidate as your competition. The reason why is because they apply for AFROTC as plan B, and AFROTC does not look at the fact that they are AFA candidates...they look at their WCS.

    I wish it works out for you. I want your dreams to come true. I hope you understand that alot goes into the selection process.

    I also hope you never give up on the dream to serve. It will never be over until you decide to call the ball.
     
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    I am educating myself to help son. Don't want to mis-lead anyone about who they are communicating with.

    The above is off of afrotc.com. This seems to agree with what you are saying regarding a "non-qualifying school". What is a non-qualifying school?

    One of the schools son is looking at will pay tuition for first year if you convert your type 7 to a 3 year type 2. Not a bad deal.

    Son's goal is an acadamy education with AFROTC scholarship being plan B and AFROTC no scholarship being plan C. US Navy falls in there somewhere as well but not sure I know where.
     
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    A non-qualifying means they will not give the IS rate for an OOS student.

    In other words you cannot use Type 7 if the school will still classify you financially charge him as an OOS. It is an all or nothing issue.

    You have stated that the school will pay tuition for the 1st yr., but here is the question, even as a Type 2, they have a cap, I think it is 18K. What happens yr 2-4? If the cost is 40K, and they only promise the 1st yr, how will you come up with 22K per yr for 2-4 or 66K before any tuition increase?

    What if he gets there and academically can't meet the marker for the school, but for ROTC?

    Where is he standing with the AFA now? Are you from a competitive area? The reason I ask that is, ROTC is nationalistic and AFA is geographical. Come from VA, MD, CO, TX, NY is different than AK, ID or ND for an apptmt.
    Easier for the latter for the AFA, harder for an AFROTC scholarship.

    I know that is a lot to absorb, but too many times I have seen posters enter thinking the scholarship award is the end of the subject for the next few yrs. It isn't.

    The end is when they stand up and raise their hand stating..."I ___ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
     
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    Just trying to get an understanding of everything. The scholarship money would be a big help but we will not be applying to schools that we can't afford with out it. The only way the scholarship is a good deal is if the kid wants to serve no matter what. If they are only doing it for the money, I don't think it is enough money. (I think son is tired of hearing me say that)

    Acadamy wise we are from a moderately competitive area. He has a decent chance but by no means is a shoe in if there is such a thing.

    Son is a junior and at this time is adamant that he wants to serve (we are fully supportive) and that is his end goal irregardless of the path he takes to get there.
     

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