School not listed on ROTC scholarship application?

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  1. radeklim

    radeklim New Member

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    Hello, I'm filling out my school of intent page on the Army ROTC application.
    My first school of choice is Stanford, and I know they have students that train with the Santa Clara University battalion. But Stanford is not an option as a school on the website application, so I'm wondering how I could show that it is my number one school? I don't want to put Santa Clara, since if I'm awarded a scholarship it would be for that school's tuition only.

    Even after researching a lot, I'm still unclear as to how the scholarship works in choosing schools - are you offerred the scholarship to that school only, or can you take it to whatever school you end up going to?

    I would really appreciate some clarification, thank you very much! :)
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    Hopefully Clarkson will shed some light on how to list Stanford on your application. You could always just call the AROTC Battalion Office at either Stanford or Santa Clara and just ask them how to list the school.

    As far as the scholarship, if you are awarded a scholarship it will be for a specific school, you cannot take the scholarship to just any other school. If you are awarded a scholarship that is not one of your top choices then you can apply to have the scholarship transferred. There has been a lot of discussion on this board regarding transfers, you might want to do a search and read through some of the posts. As soon as this round of scholarship winners are released you will again see a lot of questions about transfers. Depending on which school, transfers can be very difficult.
     
  3. MissIndependence

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    School not listed as an option

    Radeklim,
    Have you called the host school? Maybe they can shed some light on why the school is not listed. I am not sure if this is correct but my high school son told me this; "If the school did not have a scholarship awarded the previous year then the school does not show up for the current year". These are my sons words so they may not be the actual words he was told!
     
  4. dunninla

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    Since Stanford has an ROTC program (current list here) http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/find-schools.CA-.results.html

    and it doesn't show up on the Applicaiton, either: 1) only HOST institutions are listed on the Application, or 2) it is a clerical error in the App.

    Either way, agree that you should call the ROTC office at Santa Clara (host) to ask what to do.
     
  5. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Definitely call the school, but host programs have some latitude which schools the national board can make offers to. This year Cadet Command removed schools that wouldn't get offers from the application list, so applicants couldn't designate a school that would receive an offer.
     
  6. dunninla

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    Clarkson,

    Interesting update, thanks. I recall reading that Army ROTC as of about a year ago was shifting emphasis on WHICH privates to allocate scholarships to. Basically, a renewed focus on highly ranked and prestigious Privates, if CC was going to lay out $41k in tuition, it needed to be a well regarded school!

    Along with the renewed focus/publicity on Harvard/Yale by ROTC, it would be highly unlikely that scholarship awards wouldn't be set aside for use at Stanford, the S in HYPSM. That OP cannot find Stanford on the list really feels like a clerical oversight to me.
     
  7. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    I'm going to guess that Santa Clara isn't inclined to toss an incoming freshman 50K without first kicking the tires. Not sure how many cadets Stanford produces, or what the commute is like for training, so it's a little tough to say for sure why Stanford is not on the application as a school choice. If I was a betting man I'd say they don't allocate scholarships to the national process for Stanford.
     
  8. kinnem

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    I'm sure Clarksonarmy is correct. If you want to know how to go about eventually getting into Stanford AROTC try contacting Stanford enrollment officer Mr. Dustin Whidden at (408) 554-5227 or dwhidden@scu.edu. I found this info on the Stanford AROTC web site and assume its current.
     
  9. dunninla

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    kinnem, curiosity got the best of me, since I once studied at Stanford.

    I called Mr. Whidden. He doesn't now either why Stanford is not on the list of schools. However, he did say that within the Battalion, they can take an Award for use at Santa Clara, and upgrade it (cost differential is about $1,000) for use at Stanford.

    OP, from what Mr. Whidden says, if you list Santa Clara as #1, and you get into Stanford, they can take care of the transfer internally... it is the same Battalion, same budget.

    I still suspect it is/was a clerical oversight at CC.
     
  10. kinnem

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    Thanks for confirming the info was current. Sure sounds like the right approach especially since its all internal.
     
  11. Mom421

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    I don't know about Stanford, but my son was hoping to apply his potential AROTC scholarship to Yale University and it was not a listed as an option on the application. I emailed his regional representative and she said that if it was not listed, the Army has not allocated any scholarships to it this year. She didn't go into any detail and the response seemed kind of automated, but we did accept that to mean that there are no national scholarships allocated to Yale this year.

    Oh, we also contacted Yale and they had no idea. They told us to contact the battalion PMS located at University of New Haven. He never responded. It was a little frustrating.
     
  12. kinnem

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    Army ROTC has not returned to Yale yet. Navy ROTC has a presence and I think Air Force returns next year. If you son did AROTC it would have to be at University of New Haven if the scholarship could even be applied at Yale. Since I can't find any relationship between the two schools regarding AROTC I'm not even sure this is possible. You really need to keep hammering on the UNH PMS... by email, by phone, or whatever. I'm sure anyone in the cadre would be able to help answer your questions so work every UNH AROTC contact you can find. These folks are busy and seldom in the office... and in my experience most ROTC units are not very good at responding. The squeeky wheel will get the grease.
     
  13. dunninla

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    Unlike Stanford, which is listed on the AROTC website as a school offering ROTC, Yale is not listed on the AROTC website: http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/find-schools.CT-.results.html

    Have you spoken with the PMS at the University of Connecticut, the school which IS listed on the AROTC website? Here is their website: http://www.armyrotc.uconn.edu/ I suspect the University of New Haven is a cross-town affiliate for the ROTC at UConn, and as such, you're not as likely to find the PMS there as you would by contacting UConn.
     
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  14. Mom421

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    Thanks everyone for the input. The PMS for UCONN and University of New Haven and Yale is the same person, he is the one I reached out to, but received no response. Perhaps, I will try again via phone and email. He was probably quite busy given it was the beginning of the school year.

    Also, it is noted on the Army ROTC site that UConn is the host institution for ALL four-year degree-granting institutions in CT, so while it doesn't list any of those schools specifically, I assumed that included Yale. On the application, other CT schools were listed, but Yale was not. I have also seen articles in the Yale newspaper about its army cadets training at University of New Haven, so apparently there is some relationship between Yale, University of New Haven and UConn, but I don't know how scholarships are handled between the three.

    Thankfully, Yale is not my son's first choice, just one that he hoped to include in his list of five, so when the administrator at CC said no scholarships have been allocated for non-listed schools, he wasn't devastated. I just thought our limited experience might shed some light on the Stanford situation.

    But, I agree, calling those who know is the best option.
     

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