Schools that are already "full"

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  1. Hurricane13

    Hurricane13 New Member

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    I have recently been awarded the 4 year Navy Option Scholarship, (Also ASR), and was placed at a school not on my list of 5 choices. I've spoken with Ms. Parker to confirm that I can not request a transfer, only wait list, to the schools I have listed.

    A little background: My application was turned in by the September board, but "no decision" was made until December 7th. Great interview, 1340 SAT, 3 Varsity letters, NJROTC, extra-curriculars/job, 3.4 GPA (this is the very large weak point of ALL my applications), very strong course load in all subjects, particularly math and science (currently taking AP lit, calculus BC, and physics C). I am also a candidate for the USNA, taking my fitness test next week, last component, and would like to study Aerospace Engineering (Mechanical as a 2nd choice).

    1 - Embry-Riddle - Already has a large wait list, but I have been accepted and will most likely attend with or without scholarship.
    2 - Norwich University - Ms. Parker said this was a "hit or miss", and after speaking with an admissions counselor I feel fairly confident I will be accepted.
    3 - University of Florida
    4 - Virginia Military Institute
    5 - The Citadel - I did not apply, but needed a 5th choice.

    From everything I've read, these schools regularly fill up quickly (UF was a surprise though), but all I can do is be wait listed and hope for the best, someway or another I'll be an Naval Officer :rolleyes:
     
  2. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    Unless you're definite about attending Embrey-Riddle with or without the scholarship, you should apply to the school where you were placed as a safety measure in case USNA doesn't come through. Small investment to ensure you have choices if choices are what you are looking for at this point. (Sorry, you didn't mention if you were going to apply).

    If you do end up at Embrey-Riddle without the scholarship I assume you would enroll in NROTC as a college programmer, right? And of course you've been in contact with the unit there to discuss this with them, and perhaps even discuss the dilemma you are in, right?

    Congratulations on your scholarship. Even if you don't take advantage of it it's quite an honor and accomplishment to win one. :thumb:

    BTW, how does USNA look at this point? Do you have a nom yet? How does DoDMERB stand?
     
  3. Lawman32RPD

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    Because you have listed three of the six Senior Military Colleges (“SMCs”) you may wish to also consider Texas A&M University (“TAMU”). I have posted links to university supplied information regarding the university and the Dwight Look College of Engineering below. One reason to consider TAMU and the Corps is that out of state students admitted to the Corps qualify for in-state tuition, regardless of whether or not they are “contracted” or have ROTC scholarships. Like most of the SMCs TAMU has all of the ROTC programs. Applications for TAMU close on 15 January 2013. No one school is right for everyone but you might want to consider also applying to TAMU. I also sent you a PM Good luck. Lawman32RPD

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    With respect to the Corps of Cadets, you can find the link below. You can ask questions to cadets or to staff.

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  4. pleber16

    pleber16 USNA 2016

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    Texas A&M fills up fast too. Two years ago this same thing happened to me with Riddle, VMI, Citadel, Texas A&M and SDSU.
     
  5. USCGA2017hopeful

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    Can you confirm that University of Florida ROTC is indeed "full" and no more scholarships will be given for that school?
     
  6. dunninla

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    OP did not write ROTC... but NROTC.
     
  7. USCGA2017hopeful

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    I apologize. I meant NROTC. I am applying and UF is my first choice, so I wanted to get a confirmation. I will of course still contact my Navy Recruiter to see if he could corroborate this as well.
     
  8. Pima

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    This has to be scary reading this thread for many applicants since boards will be meeting for many more months.

    Just curious is this typical yr after yr to be filled with a waiting list by Dec. or is it the combination of the economy and the fiscal issues that the DoD is incurring now?
     
  9. terp1984

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    For UF, all of those accepted will also have bright futures scholarship if instate. It is a very desirable, flagship state school and I wouldn't think would take many from the wait list. I believe the navy scholarship can be used for room and board.
     
  10. Pima

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    Terp, I think you may be correct. Flagship colleges with great units can be close to impossible to get in if you need to wait until April/May to get in.

    I am not sure the scholarship can be used, I thought ROTC scholarships can only be used for tuition. They may as a college give free room and board for ROTC cadets on scholarship, or merit and use that for R &B.
     
  11. kinnem

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    I don't know if this is still the case but there certainly was a period of time when the NROTC scholarship could be used for either tuition or room and board. I don't believe this was the case for other services. I seem to recall reading some posts on this forum about 2 years ago where some folks were doing just that because they had other scholarships to cover the tuition. Nice gig if you can get it.
     
  12. USNA2017Mom

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    Hurricane13--sent you a PM
     
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    Does anyone know how fast the USD, CU Boulder, UCLA units fill up?
     
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    There was a post about a year ago regarding UCLA filling up rather late. USD is one of the first 5-6 in the country to fill up.
     
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    Anybody know anything about the University of Texas in Austin regarding NROTC scholarship slots?
     
  16. Hurricane13

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    I do not have anything deadset at this point, I would love to attend Embry, but I recognize that choosing a nearly free 2nd or 3rd option may be better in the long run for me. My boyfriend is a college program Midshipman there(and I promise that while this is a perk, it is not at all my main motivation for this school - I am the one who suggested the school to him), so knowing how they run ROTC, getting to see the campus from a different perspective, and familiarity with Central Florida have all confirmed it as my 1st choice. I have spoken with the unit before, but with this recent news I will be contacting them again.

    I will go ahead an apply to IIT (Ms. Parker recommended it because they provide free room and board to ROTC cadets) although I dread the thought of living in Chicago for four years. Like you said it is a small investment for a secure (and nearly free!) back up plan.

    On USNA:
    I have everything in except for my CFA, which I'm actually taking on Monday (I would push it off until January but my B&G Officer wants my application in before the group of college applicants send in their transcripts). I just received the letter from DODMERB medically qualifying me, no waivers, but on the back is a footnote mentioning that USNA can only take so many candidates with uncorrected vision of 20/40 or worse. I applied for a nom through my Congressman, and was told I would hear back this month, and my NJROTC Commander has just sent out the nomination from NJROTC. So everything is finally coming to a close with applications.

    ---regarding UF room & board---When I visited recently, I was told that they do not provide free room and board at UF for ROTC, but they did open a new dorm across from Van Fleet Hall made for cadets.

    Thank you, and if I forgot something or you have further questions, I can't private message yet but I'm available on here!
     
  17. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    My mind is blown.
     
  18. kinnem

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    Hurricane13,

    It sounds like you're doing all the right things and all is on track. Just wanted to say that although Chicago can be cold in the winter I think you'll find it's a city that has much to offer... especially when you're not also spending money on Room and Board which is a great secondary benefit. It will probably be more inviting than some places you'll be stationed in the Navy. You might even find you like Chicago and the cooler temps. I happened to go to a college where for two weeks every winter the temps would warm up, during the day, to -30 degrees. I loved it. Ice carnival in Feb was the highlight of the school year.

    Also, not to dissuade you from a particular course, but to inform you and your parents... the assistance you receive from IIT on room and board will be "taxable income" as far as the feds are concerned. But better to pay a percentage as taxes than the whole amount to the school.

    Good luck in your endeavors. Sounds to me like you will definitely make a savvy officer.
     
  19. paradoxer

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    Ice Carnival

    Wasn't -30 but we did have almost 400 inches of snow my freshman year and the Ice Carnival was fantastic where I went to college as well.
     
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  20. kinnem

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    Oswego, NY? Or somewhere more inviting?
     

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